Forget adding time, entire programs are now getting cut

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
The bloodshed has now started. Will be interesting to see how frequent and widespread this is.

 

4Q_iu

The Nicks Level
Supporter
I seriously doubt this happened because of the pandemic. The timing is convenient, but I would wager that this program was going to be cut regardless.

For example, as many of us already know, Valpo cut men's tennis and men's soccer several few months ago.

Cincy's announcement: https://gobearcats.com/news/2020/4/14/uc-discontinues-mens-soccer-program.aspx


Quite possible but far too many programs rely on that annual NCAA $$$ dump and it's not coming this year and perhaps not next year

no doubt several programs will use that as a reason/excuse to shutter programs

going to be a firestorm of shuttered programs
 

TreeTop

The Menser Level
Supporter
Quite possible but far too many programs rely on that annual NCAA $$$ dump and it's not coming this year and perhaps not next year

no doubt several programs will use that as a reason/excuse to shutter programs

going to be a firestorm of shuttered programs
That's a good point.
 

Bluethunder

Hugh McAwesome
Supporter
That's a good point.
I think now that sports are on a hold, many AD's have the time (or at least don't have the excuse of NOT having the time) to do a really deep dive into their finances and long term outlooks. Many are not going to like what they see.
 

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
I seriously doubt this happened because of the pandemic. The timing is convenient, but I would wager that this program was going to be cut regardless.

For example, as many of us already know, Valpo cut men's tennis and men's soccer several few months ago.

Cincy's announcement: https://gobearcats.com/news/2020/4/14/uc-discontinues-mens-soccer-program.aspx
Maybe. But this all has a compounding effect.

A lot of people think this is happening solely because revenue sports can't keep the machine going. The bigger issue for most schools is they can no longer pilfer from their students and other pools they pull from.
 

4Q_iu

The Nicks Level
Supporter
Maybe. But this all has a compounding effect.

A lot of people think this is happening solely because revenue sports can't keep the machine going. The bigger issue for most schools is they can no longer pilfer from their students and other pools they pull from.

agreed and that existing student base is shrinking; believe ISU has had a 2-yr enrollment decline, chiefly because the nation is in a "dip" wrt college aged HS grads

i've read that the current 15-19 YO group is ~500K smaller than their older "peer group"

as the US population continues to slowly age AND that COVID-19 may put a REAL crimp in "importing students" -- what will the new student enrollments/population be over the next couple of years?
 

Westbadenboy

The Captain Level
Not certain the number of student enrollment at ISU -- high or low -- has much to do with the real health of ISU sports. On a good night in mid-season you might get 200 students at a basketball game ……..with either 10,000 or 14,000 students enrolled. Only a few more at a football game.
I know sports get a portion of student fees so higher enrollments do help but ultimately you need a couple thousand in the stands.
 

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
Listening to sports radio today here in Vegas and they were talking about how college administrations are freaking out about enrollment. I really think we're going to see more programs being cut and I wouldn't be surprised if some colleges shuttered altogether.

I know ISU sent out a survey today to those that have donated this year. Would love to see the compiled feedback.
 

ISUCC

The Odum Level
Moderator
Listening to sports radio today here in Vegas and they were talking about how college administrations are freaking out about enrollment. I really think we're going to see more programs being cut and I wouldn't be surprised if some colleges shuttered altogether.

I know ISU sent out a survey today to those that have donated this year. Would love to see the compiled feedback.
I received one of those surveys too, will have to take a look at it.
 

Bluethunder

Hugh McAwesome
Supporter
University of Louisville just announced they will furlough 45 employees for 60 days, and cu 40 positions.

Also stated that when sports do return, they will be attempting to schedule teams closer to them in order to utilize bus travel, and save more money.
 
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Sycamorefan96

The Captain Level
So much for the B.S. story that the NCAA does whatever its members want. You had 26 conferences that needed some relief and the NCAA gave us all a big middle finger.
 

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
So much for the B.S. story that the NCAA does whatever its members want. You had 26 conferences that needed some relief and the NCAA gave us all a big middle finger.
But the people that made the decision are the members. This is the Division I council that made the call:

FBS​
AD Charles Cobb
Georgia State University
Sun Belt Conference
JUN 2023​
FBS​
AD Gary Barta
University of Iowa
Big Ten Conference
JUN 2023*​
FBS​
AD Heather Lyke Catalano
University of Pittsburgh
Atlantic Coast Conference
JUN 2023​
FBS​
AD Rick George
University of Colorado, Boulder
Pac-12 Conference
JUN 2021​
FBS​
AD, Associate Vice-President Shane Lyons
West Virginia University
Big 12 Conference
JUN 2022​
FBS​
Commissioner Jon A. Steinbrecher
Mid-American Conference
Mid-American Conference
JUN 2022​
FBS​
Commissioner Judy MacLeod
Conference USA
Conference USA
JUN 2023​
FBS​
FAR Kurt Zorn
Indiana University, Bloomington
Big Ten Conference
JUN 2023​
FBS​
FAR, Professor Dawn Lewis
California State University, Fresno
Mountain West Conference
JUN 2022​
FBS​
SWA Maggie McKinley
University of Cincinnati
American Athletic Conference
JUN 2021​
FBS​
SWA, Executive Associate AD Lynda Tealer
University of Florida
Southeastern Conference
JUN 2023​
FBS​
Student-Athlete Ethan Good
Bowling Green State University
Mid-American Conference
MAY 2020​
FBS​
Student-Athlete Sam Perelman
Old Dominion University
Conference USA
MAY 2020*​
FBS​
Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics Lisa Campos
University of Texas at San Antonio
Conference USA
JUN 2022​
FCS​
AD Ingrid Wicker-McCree
North Carolina Central University
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conf.
JUN 2023​
FCS​
AD Jennifer Williams
Alabama State University
Southwestern Athletic Conf.
JUN 2022​
FCS​
AD M. Grace Calhoun
University of Pennsylvania
The Ivy League
JUN 2021​
FCS​
AD Martin Newton
Samford University
Southern Conference
JUN 2023​
FCS​
AD Samantha Huge
William & Mary
Colonial Athletic Association
JUN 2023​
FCS​
Commissioner Jennifer Heppel
Patriot League
Patriot League
AUG 2021​
FCS​
Commissioner Noreen Morris
Northeast Conference
Northeast Conference
JUN 2022​
FCS​
Commissioner Patty Viverito
Missouri Valley Football Conference
Missouri Valley Football Conference
JUN 2022​
FCS​
Deputy Commissioner John Williams
Southland Conference
Southland Conference
JUN 2023​
FCS​
SWA, Senior Associate Athletic Director Jean Gee
University of Montana
Big Sky Conference
JUN 2022​
FCS​
SWA, Senior Associate Director of Athletics Maisha Kelly
Bucknell University
Patriot League
JUN 2023​
FCS​
AD Ken Halpin
Winthrop University
Big South Conference
JUN 2023​
FCS​
FAR, Professor of Media Studies Richard Tiner
Belmont University
Ohio Valley Conference
JUN 2022​
DI​
AD Alex Ricker-Gilbert
Jacksonville University
ASUN Conference
JUN 2021​
DI​
AD David Harris
University of Northern Iowa
Missouri Valley Conference
JUN 2023​
DI​
AD Mark Jackson
Villanova University
Big East Conference
JUN 2023​
DI​
AD Shawn Heilbron
Stony Brook University
America East Conference
JUN 2023​
DI​
AD Christopher May
Saint Louis University
Atlantic 10 Conference
JUN 2023​
DI​
AD Justin Sell
South Dakota State University
The Summit League
JUN 2021​
DI​
AD Paul Schlickmann
Fairfield University
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
JUN 2022​
DI​
AD Paula Smith
University of California, Irvine
Big West Conference
JUN 2021​
DI​
AD Renee Mack Baumgartner
Santa Clara University
West Coast Conference
JUN 2023​
DI​
Commissioner Ted Gumbart
ASUN Conference
ASUN Conference
JUN 2023​
DI​
FAR Kim Capriotti
Jacksonville University
ASUN Conference
JUN 2022​
DI​
SWA Jaunelle White
Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis
Horizon League
JUN 2023​
DI​
SWA, Deputy Athletic Director Jamie P. Boggs
Grand Canyon University
Western Athletic Conference
JUN 2022​
I​
Commissioner Gregory Sankey
Southeastern Conference
Southeastern Conference
JUN 2020​
 

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
You can always find out who is making the decisions here:


What will be interesting is if this causes University leadership to force them to cut their programs in other ways. Taking away out-of-state scholarships, imposing travel restrictions, going back to bus travel, etc.
 

Sycamorefan96

The Captain Level
So the small schools voted against themselves again.... Unbelievable. The conferences and their members came together and made this request just for their own people to vote against them. Can't make this stuff up.
 

needles

The Sycamore Level
So you are in favor of allowing the group of five schools to cut programs instead being creative and finding ways to make up the lost dollars?
 

needles

The Sycamore Level
Denied. Certain ISU programs breathing sighs of relief no doubt.

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You can always find out who is making the decisions here:


What will be interesting is if this causes University leadership to force them to cut their programs in other ways. Taking away out-of-state scholarships, imposing travel restrictions, going back to bus travel, etc.
All of those ideas are a much better options than cutting programs.
 
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