Hosting a MTE

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Huff77

The Varsity Level
I feel like we missed out on a huge chance to rub our Indiana Classic win in Bloomington's face all these years. We should have immediately started hosting an Indiana Classic and invite the crap teams IU brings into SSAH during each non-conference season.
 

BlueBleeder

The Captain Level
Supporter
Funny, I was just thinking about this the other day. We should host a tournament at Hulman Center every year or every other year. The arena is beautiful and we need to show it off and make some money in the process.
 

SycamoreStateofMind

The Odum Level
Supporter
Not to mention that we have a great deal of experience "hosting" much larger events than some MTE... I mean we've got a track record of hosting NCAA Cross Country National Championships, Conference Championship and Conference Regional events.

My point being - the structure exists. You have plenty of local hotel capacity. You have the convention center and your own arena on campus for practices and walk-through's. I'm sure if a school needed a local high school gym that could be easily scheduled. You have the Convention Center or a welcome event of some sort or even for other schools to host alumni gathering similar to what we hosted down in Florida. It's not warm here or a great destination for the athletes - but they are coming to play basketball. Once we have the casino that will be another added benefit for fans.

I don't know - I like the idea.
 

IndyTreeFan

The Nicks Level
Supporter
How about a tournament that hosts top mid-majors each year. And it wouldn't have to be limited to four or six or eight teams. It could be any size, and could really help our own schedule out. I'd even serve on the steering committee!!! 🤣

Seriously, this could be cool. It'll never happen, but it could be a first class event!
 

IndyTreeFan

The Nicks Level
Supporter
Imagine getting seven of the following, plus us. Good tournament with everyone getting three good games:

Kent St/Toledo/Akron
St. Mary's
Charleston
GCU
Iona
Furman
San Francisco
New Mexico State
Towson
Wright State
Tarleton St
Oral Roberts

That would be a fun weekend for basketball. Of course, we can't offer a beach and 80 degree temps, but we could offer a real chance to test your team against other top level mids. That would be key - the quality of the games would have to be high to get people to Terre Haute around Thanksgiving or Christmas...
 

eaglepride

The Recruit Level
How about having a Indiana Classic were the 8 mid major Indiana D1 teams play in a 3 game tournament? Have 4 teams play at Terre Haute and 4 teams play in Muncie and the 7th place, 5th place, 3rd place and Championship played in Indianapolis. Then next year have 4 teams play in Evansville 4 teams play in Fort Wayne and the 7th place, 5th place, 3rd place, and Championship played in Terre Haute. Then the 3rd place have 4 teams play in Valparaiso 4 teams play in Indianapolis and the 7th place, 5th place, 3rd place and Championship played in Evansville. Then the 4th year have 4 teams play in Valparaiso 4 teams in Terre Haute and the 7th place, 5th place, 3rd place and Championship play in Muncie.
 

Westbadenboy

The All-MVC Level
Had a tournament in Terre Haute many years ago
Pizza Hut Classic I'm pretty sure
You need a major sponsor I'd think .....major with a capital M
Plus getting teams to play/come to Terre Haute in November ???
And with three MVC teams in Indiana -- last thing you'd want is to have two MVC teams playing each other.
I'd like to see another challenge hookup with another conference like we had several years ago -- we got several good home games thru that.
 

4Q_iu

The Kleuh Level
Supporter
In the Wooden-Longellow Era, State hosted a 'holiday-/mid-west tournament' sponsored by the rotarians/kiwanis/jaycees

during the bird era; State had it's own 'indiana classic' like tourney

wasn't the pizza hut classic the modern version of the old Wabash Valley Tournament for HS teams?
 

Westbadenboy

The All-MVC Level
The ISU tournament may or may not have been called "Pizza Hut Classic" but that's what I remember.
Only lasted a a couple years I think. Bob Heaton played for Denver University in one of those years and he then transfered to State
This was in the middle 1970's just as Larry was arriving on the scene.
I think .....think....the Pizza Hut label then was applied to a high school tournament
 

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
Hosting a MTE has a unique set of problems. You can't really make it a Indiana-based event due to the number of teams in the same conferences. You also have the problem of attendance. People don't come to Sycamore games, so making a leap of faith hoping they'd come to this. Also already multiple Indiana-based/themed ones so it is saturated.


I'd be curious if the campus-based MTEs make any money for the host school. If not, you could do a MTE based around solving your scheduling problem/deficiencies. Keep in mind that if you did this, the Sycamores cannot participate in other MTEs. You can only count the results from one IIRC and you can only play up to 31 games before the conference tournament starts.
 

Hooper

The All-MVC Level
Supporter
For those of you that don't know there is a new "Indiana Classic" Holiday MTE in Ft. Wayne Dec 19 an 20. All Indiana schools except one. I think it's non-exempt.


INDIANA CLASSIC
Mon., Dec. 19: IUPUI (Horizon) vs. Southern Indiana (Ohio Valley, reclassifying), 4:15 p.m.; Texas A&M-Commerce (Southland, reclassifying) at Purdue Fort Wayne (Horizon), approx. 7 p.m.
Tues., Dec. 20: Texas A&M-Commerce vs. IUPUI, 4:15 p.m.; Southern Indiana at Purdue Fort Wayne, approx. 7 p.m.
 

4Q_iu

The Kleuh Level
Supporter
The ISU tournament may or may not have been called "Pizza Hut Classic" but that's what I remember.
Only lasted a a couple years I think. Bob Heaton played for Denver University in one of those years and he then transfered to State
This was in the middle 1970's just as Larry was arriving on the scene.
I think .....think....the Pizza Hut label then was applied to a high school tournament

ISU MBB media guides from that era just cite the "Indiana Hall of Fame Classic" at Terre Haute -- no commercial sponsor is listed



and if any Pizza Chain was going to sponsor an Indiana-based MTE, shouldn't it be; WOULDN'T it have been Pizza King?
 

bluestreak

The All-MVC Level
Supporter
The Pizza Hut Classic was never a college tournament.

Northview, Terre Haute North, Terre Haute South and West Vigo wanted to play an additional game in Hulman Center (it was an IHSAA post-season tournament site). They partnered with Wabash Valley Pizza Hut, Inc. and the Pizza Hut Shootout was launched. Don't remember when, but think it was around 1989 or 1990.

In 2000, that four-game shootout would eventually lead to the Pizza Hut Wabash Valley Classic. 12 teams played that first year and in 2001, a 16 team Tournament was established .

In 2015, First Financial Bank took over as the Tournament Sponsor and the Tournament became the First Financial Bank Wabash Valley Classic.
 
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