Lansing Contract Situation

Jason Svoboda

The Bird Level
Administrator
Boda, Leitnaker is a bad example. He was a McKenna recruit and here for four injury plagued years. Don't think he played anywhere else.


"I want to thank everybody especially coach McKenna and coach Lansing for keeping me around since I wasn't recruited by them out of high school and they gave me the opportunity to play three years despite my injury situation. I want them to know that I really appreciate that," Leitnaker said. "I just don't feel like I can continue to battle my injuries for another year and I am on track to graduate so I feel like it is in my best interests to move on from basketball."


Remember the longest time we used him as the answer for a ton of jokes. Before him it was Michael Kernan.
 
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Southgrad07

The Wade Level
Name me one significant player we’ve lost in the summer that had any material effect on our ability to win? Lansing deserves a lot of criticism, but we’ve had a remarkable track record of keeping our best players. Peek around the rest of the MVC specifically and you’ll see we are actually one of the best when it comes to retaining players (the ones we want) through graduation.
Agree 100% compared to our peers. We have lost one guy that was a big blow..Losing RJ for his SR year hurt.. And that pains me to say with his dad being the royal douche that he is. We replaced him with Demetrius Moore and missed his frontcourt production..Running like he had a corn cob up his ass and all, we missed him on that team.
 

BrokerZ

The JSW Level
Supporter
Agree 100% compared to our peers. We have lost one guy that was a big blow..Losing RJ for his SR year hurt.. And that pains me to say with his dad being the royal douche that he is. We replaced him with Demetrius Moore and missed his frontcourt production..Running like he had a corn cob up his ass and all, we missed him on that team.
RJ is the only one I could really consider as a big loss, as well. I thought about mentioning him as the one exception, but I didn’t feel like he left because of Lansing. Maybe he ultimately did leave because he didn’t get along with Coach, but he at least had a good excuse - he wanted to go play with his brother.
 

SycamoreBlue3209

The All-MVC Level
RJ is the only one I could really consider as a big loss, as well. I thought about mentioning him as the one exception, but I didn’t feel like he left because of Lansing. Maybe he ultimately did leave because he didn’t get along with Coach, but he at least had a good excuse - he wanted to go play with his brother.
I guess you could say a combination of Lansing and his brother. The way I understand his reason for leaving was Lansing wouldn’t give his brother a scholarship.
 

meistro

The Newsom Level
Supporter
I guess you could say a combination of Lansing and his brother. The way I understand his reason for leaving was Lansing wouldn’t give his brother a scholarship.
Mcwhorter left early and I really liked him. I don’t think that was GL’s fault though. Too many urine problems, I believe.
 

3ColumnsOf11

The Blue Level
Someone feel free to correct me, but I’m pretty sure with most of these buyouts there are two things that come into play:

1: If (or when; sometimes the coach is contractually obligated to seek employment) the coach lands a new gig somewhere, the buyout is offset by the new contract at the new school, lowering the buyout considerably.

B: The buyout isn’t one large game-show check, but typically paid out over the course of a specified amount of time.

If I’m correct (I may not be, someone can go through the contract if that’s easily available) it’s not a matter of money, it’s a matter of doing it and having a plan in place. Might not be as much of a longshot as some think.
 

Prisonmate

The White Level
Fwiw, Evansville fired Marty Simmons March 13 last year - but the season was also a week earlier. So we'll probably find out one way or another next week.
 

SycamoreBlue3209

The All-MVC Level
Fwiw, Evansville fired Marty Simmons March 13 last year - but the season was also a week earlier. So we'll probably find out one way or another next week.
Greg isn’t going anywhere this year. He’s already met with Clink. Couple things...we simply can’t afford to pay him $500,000 to leave and then pay a new coach $250,000 plus, he also has a very experienced team coming back then the addition of Cobie Barnes and Cam Bacote. I’m all for criticizing his game plan if you don’t agree with it, but it’s guaranteed he will be back for the ‘19-‘20 season.
 

meistro

The Newsom Level
Supporter
Greg isn’t going anywhere this year. He’s already met with Clink. Couple things...we simply can’t afford to pay him $500,000 to leave and then pay a new coach $250,000 plus, he also has a very experienced team coming back then the addition of Cobie Barnes and Cam Bacote. I’m all for criticizing his game plan if you don’t agree with it, but it’s guaranteed he will be back for the ‘19-‘20 season.
I believe you’re correct. Evidence of this is that they’re now advertising his basketball camp. As you mentioned, we do have some good pieces coming back, as well as a good recruiting class coming in. This could make for some tough decisions to be made if this team were to have some success next year. Say we win 20 games and finish in the top half of conference. GL would have only 1 year left on his contract. Would Clink extend it based on one decent season out of 6? If he doesn’t, that would send a bad signal to potential recruits. If money wasn’t an issue, this would have been the time to make a change. Gonna be some tough decisions that will need to be made.
 
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bent20

The Odum Level
Greg isn’t going anywhere this year. He’s already met with Clink. Couple things...we simply can’t afford to pay him $500,000 to leave and then pay a new coach $250,000 plus, he also has a very experienced team coming back then the addition of Cobie Barnes and Cam Bacote. I’m all for criticizing his game plan if you don’t agree with it, but it’s guaranteed he will be back for the ‘19-‘20 season.
If you go back and look at what happened with Waltman, he wasn't retained after his contract expired. It wasn't until about February of that year that a decision was made not to re-sign him, then it leaked out early via a Board of Trustees meeting, I believe (I read the Trib article about it not long ago, going by memory) and Waltman expressed his frustration as the team still had Arch Madness to get through.

So, I wouldn't expect anything to happen in terms of a decision with Lansing until February/March of 2021, if ISU repeats history, which when it comes to athletics they often do. But maybe Clinkscales won't be that patient and things will go down differently. I expect two more seasons of equally frustrating performances. The only way I can see that changing is if we get some stud recruits and guys that don't take that much coaching.
 

HOOPSFAN

The Varsity Level
Very disappointing to have nothing to look forward to for the next basketball season. The ransom issue is understandable but Lansing will not be a better coach next year & if he had 3-4 Romeo's coming in it makes no difference if he can't make a team of them and he has not shown any ability to do that for the last few years. It won't be better until he is gone. I would not give any consideration next time around whatever his record might be next year due to the downhill slide of the product especially the last 4 years. I still believe there will be defections of a negative nature before next season rolls out.
 

SycamoreStateofMind

The Odum Level
Supporter
This is pretty simple...

Anything short of an NCAA or NIT in the next two years Lansing is not going to get extended.

Clink is going to want to bring is own guy in - he's got to be itching to bring someone in and put his stamp on our marquee program. He's a D1 athletic director - making a good hire and potentially elevating our hoops program is how you build a resume! I'm sure it's killing him knowing that Lansing has coached his way out of this contract but the few donors we do have are more loyal to Lansing than they are the University. Even if that wasn't the case we don't have the money to bounce him if he wanted to and you better believe he wants to (at least that's my take).

I don't think any coach that has lost as much as Lansing has lost the last several years would get an extension after one winning season - to be perfectly honest I'm not sure what would make anyone think he's going to be able to coach his way out of this? He's been under the same pressure for multiple seasons now and the results have been pretty consistent - a lot of blow out losses! We got beat by double digits a lot this year by (I left out anything less than 14 points): 22, 22, 29, 15, 14, 15, 35, 14, 20 and 15 the previous year we had losses of 14, 19, 16 and 18. This is not a team that is headed in the right direction... This was not a team that was improved at all from his previous shitty teams. This is a team that needs a HUGE amount of help!
 
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