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Schnepf: Strides by some teams hurt Missouri Valley's playoff chances
Improvement is the buzz word in the Missouri Valley Football Conference this fall. Unfortunately for the league, it may not improve its chances to get more teams in the playoffs.
By: Kevin Schnepf, INFORUM

Improvement is the buzz word in the Missouri Valley Football Conference this fall. Unfortunately for the league, it may not improve its chances to get more teams in the playoffs.

“It’s nuts,” said league commissioner Patty Viverito, who was in the Fargodome on Saturday to watch North Dakota State keep its playoff hopes alive with a 27-15 win over Indiana State.

Bison coach Craig Bohl, who has been clamoring for week-to-week improvement since fall camp started, saw his defense get better. Realistically, the defense only allowed two field goals against an Indiana State team that was averaging 51 points during its previous three-game winning streak.

The most dramatic improvement has come from Indiana State – a team which one year ago at this time was ending its notorious 33-game losing streak. A win Saturday would’ve put the Sycamores in a tie for first-place in the Missouri Valley – a league in which six of the nine teams already have two conference losses.

Northern Iowa took first place from Western Illinois – which with Indiana State are two of the nation’s most improved teams.

“In my 26 years in this league, I’ve never seen anything like this,” Viverito said. “I have always bragged about the depth of this league, but not teams one through nine. It certainly makes for interesting and exciting games, but when it comes selection time for the playoffs, it’s going to make it tough on ourselves.”

When the Football Championship Subdivision expanded the playoffs from 16 to 20 teams this year, Viverito thought her league would deserve more than two playoff teams.

“Well, now … two would be nice,” she said of the wacky conference season.

Who would have thought a powerful program like NDSU would be sitting in last place at this point of the season? That’s what was staring the Bison in the face when Indiana State jumped out to a 12-0 lead. In fact, a loss would have been NDSU’s seventh straight conference defeat in the Fargodome.

Bohl, now with an 8-14 Missouri Valley record, was not only thankful for the win but thankful for next week’s bye.

“I want to thank athletic director Gene Taylor and commissioner Viverito for the scheduling,” Bohl said, directing his postgame news conference comments to Taylor and Viverito, sitting a few feet away. “With so much parity in this league, it’s great to get a win. We were on the ropes. To have a bye at this time … we can certainly use it.”

What the Bison have going for them during this mad rush for a playoff berth is their 5-3 overall record and their win over Kansas. Home wins over Southern Illinois and South Dakota State and a win at Missouri State would give the Bison an 8-3 record that would look pretty good to the selection committee.

“We’re just trying to get to the next week,” Bohl said. “We realize everybody is still in it.”

Including Indiana State – which now owns a 2-2 league record and 4-3 overall record.

The Sycamores’ road to the playoffs isn’t easy either, with home games against SDSU and Northern Iowa and road games against Youngstown State and Southern Illinois.

“Our eyes are on winning the conference,” said Indiana State head coach Trent Miles. “You could never say that at Indiana State before … probably forever.”

One big reason for the amazing turnaround is quarterback Ronnie Fouch. At this time last year, Fouch was filling in for an injured Jake Locker at the University of Washington. Knowing his time would be limited with a healthy Locker, Fouch opted to leave Washington – where Miles used to be the running backs coach.

“Yeah, we are making history, but we want more than that,” said Fouch, who very well could be Indiana State’s most-prized transfer since Larry Bird. “That’s what I came here to do, to win a conference championship.”

With all the improvement and parity, some think winning a conference championship may be the only way for a Missouri Valley team to get into the playoffs. All this parity had the league’s selection committee representative a bit worried even three weeks ago when he made a call to Viverito.

“Patty, I’m starting to get nervous,” he said to Viverito. “Are we all going to end up 4-4? We need some separation.”

“Oh, it’s early,” Viverito tried to assure him.

Three weeks later?

“It’s still wild,” Viverito said.
 

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NDSU football victory heats up chase in Missouri Valley Football Conference
It’s the Misery Valley Football Conference, a league where no game is a sure bet, leaving at least half of the fans, players and coaches aghast every week.
By: Jeff Kolpack, INFORUM

It’s the Misery Valley Football Conference, a league where no game is a sure bet, leaving at least half of the fans, players and coaches aghast every week.

Indiana State got on a charter airplane Saturday night with that feeling, delivered by 24th-ranked North Dakota State on Saturday before 15,245 fans at the Fargodome.

The 27-15 Bison win may still have them toward the bottom of the Missouri Valley Football standings, but it improved their overall record to 5-3 and set up a possible November playoff run in the Division I Football Championship Subdivision.

“This season has been rough,” said NDSU safety Daniel Eaves. “But now we can just look to next week.”

The Bison have a bye – a much-needed one-week break – and play Southern Illinois at home in two weeks. They regained some defensive momentum that was missing in action the last three weeks, holding the Sycamores to just 27 yards rushing.

“Anytime we get held to 27 yards rushing, we really don’t have a chance to win,” said Sycamores head coach Trent Miles. “We’re a balanced offense.”

That lack of balance ended a six-game NDSU home losing streak in the conference, with the last victory against the Sycamores in 2008.

Indiana State got just one touchdown, and that was perhaps more the NDSU offense’s fault than anything. The Sycamores notched a two-point safety when NDSU recovered its own fumble in the end zone midway in the second quarter.

The Sycamores took the ensuing free kick 50 yards and a 13-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Ronnie Fouch to Justin Hilton gave ISU a 12-0 lead. But the Bison allowed just a 22-yard field goal by Cory Little with 8:45 left in the game from there.

A Sycamores offense that averaged 51 points in their last three games was reduced to Fouch throwing virtually every down in the second half.

“We don’t want to be dropping back and chucking it on every down,” Miles said, “and it got to that point today.”

It was the third time the Bison held an opponent under 100 yards rushing, with Kansas and Morgan State the other two. But those feats came early in the season, and the trend lately was for teams to wear NDSU down with the run.

Not on Saturday.

Four of NDSU’s top six tacklers were freshmen. Safety Colten Heagle, in his first start, had nine stops along with junior linebacker Chad Willson.

Freshman linebacker Grant Olson finished with seven tackles while freshman cornerback Marcus Williams and freshman defensive end Cole Jirik had five each.

“We had been giving up a lot of yards rushing lately, so that was key,” Jirik said.

Jirik added two quarterback sacks and also recovered a fumble that led to NDSU’s final touchdown – a 3-yard touchdown run by running back D.J. McNorton.

“Those guys played special today,” Eaves said.

McNorton’s score made it 27-15 with 4:29 left in the game, valuable breathing room considering the back-and-forth nature of league games this season.

Fouch finished 25 of 47 for 330 yards. The Bison were more balanced – quarterback Jose Mohler was 12 of 20 for 185 yards and no turnovers, and McNorton had 146 yards rushing on 24 attempts.

As customary, it took NDSU awhile to get going.

The Bison saved themselves from a first-half offensive embarrassment with a 56-yard, eight-play drive that got them on the board. Justin Howard set the table with a 34-yard kickoff return, which provided somewhat of a momentum shift after the Sycamores had just scored on the 19-yard pass to Hilton.

ISU was less than two minutes from a complete first half upper hand.

But Mohler’s 13-yard pass to fullback Garrett Bruhn on the first play reached the Sycamore 43.

McNorton got the final 18 yards on the ground, with the last three a touchdown run with 35 seconds remaining in the second quarter. It cut the Sycamore lead to 12-7.

With the Bison defense showing its early season form, it was enough space for NDSU to forge ahead in the second half.

“Like everybody else, we’re playing with grit and determination,” said NDSU head coach Craig Bohl. “That’s not easy.”
 
anyone else notice T.Miles' comment on winning the conference; "...“Our eyes are on winning the conference,” said Indiana State head coach Trent Miles. “You could never say that at Indiana State before … probably forever.”

Sadly, it's true -- too bad our best seasons came when we were a football independent... bright times ahead (MS lighting notwithstanding)
 
1995 we had a shot. 1996 we end up in a three way tie if we beat UNI and outright (i think) if we beat UNI and SMS. Those were the last 2 weeks of the season.
 
wow...compare fouch to bird....no knock on fouch but man...that is a big statement...Bird one of the best ever in NBA...those are big shoes to fill...just saying...I hoping though...I'm hoping
 
wow...compare fouch to bird....no knock on fouch but man...that is a big statement...Bird one of the best ever in NBA...those are big shoes to fill...just saying...I hoping though...I'm hoping

Well -- what transfers between Bird and Fouch would have 'filled Bird's shoes'?
 

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we were not an independent in 1983 or 1984

We played Tulsa at Memorial Stadium in 1984 for the MVC title. I remember that game well. Tulsa, coached by John Cooper, fumbling the ball deep in our territory, everybody trying to recover the ball. Former SID Bill Goldring jumping up and down in the press box as the ball went out of bounds.

We lost that game 24-17. The MVC had football in those years, but the conference did not have an automatic bid to the playoffs as of yet. The MVC then morphed into the Gateway Conference, which is when the automatic bid came.
 
That was a great year. We also smoked Ball State at the Hooiser Dome and ran all over Louisville AT their place. As the song says, "those were the days!"
 
We played Tulsa at Memorial Stadium in 1984 for the MVC title. I remember that game well. Tulsa, coached by John Cooper, fumbling the ball deep in our territory, everybody trying to recover the ball. Former SID Bill Goldring jumping up and down in the press box as the ball went out of bounds.

We lost that game 24-17. The MVC had football in those years, but the conference did not have an automatic bid to the playoffs as of yet. The MVC then morphed into the Gateway Conference, which is when the automatic bid came.

Yes, but wasn't MVC football more 'dorked up' than that? The whole 'hybrid' scheme of Div 1-A AND Div 1-AA teams in the same conference?

Surprised they didn't award a Div 1-A AND a Div 1-AA championship.

Weren't we an independent during the Jerry Huntsman glory days?
The sole conference title (1964) is a Quad-Championship, no?
 
YEAH, we had Tulsa that was Division I-A

and the rest of the league was I-AA. We made it to the playoffs in 1983 and 1984 as a non-automatic qualifier, which made our seeding a little tougher.

We beat Eastern Illinois (16-13) in a first round game at Memorial Stadium and then lost to eventual I-AA national champion Southern Illinois in a second round game in 1983. We lost twice to SIU that year, a regular-season game at home and the playoff game at Carbondale. Two of our four losses that year were to the Dawgs (34-21 and 23-7) and finished with a 9-4 record (also lost at Illinois State in the Mike Prior game 37-20 and at Florida 17-13). We did indeed beat Ball U 35-14 that year at the RCA Dome.

Sean Payton was the EIU quarterback in 1983 and he still complains about the lack of a couple pass interference calls against the Sycamores in the Panthers' end zone. lol

We lost a home game to Middle Tennessee in triple overtime in the 1984 playoffs. We tried a fake extra point and tried to run it over after the third overtime session. One of the side blockers, fullback Jimmy Edwards, took the pitch from the holder and was stopped at the goal line.

It was a case where we couldnt stop them and they couldnt stop us. So we went for two off a fake PAT attempt after we scored in the third overtime. Both defenses were dead tired.

We finished up 9-3 in 1984 with losses to Tulsa, Western Illinois and Middle Tennessee. All three losses came in our final three games of the season. ISU had wins that year over Ball U (34-6), Louisville (44-21) and Central Florida (38-0).
 
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and the rest of the league was I-AA. We made it to the playoffs in 1983 and 1984 as a non-automatic qualifier, which made our seeding a little tougher.

We beat Eastern Illinois (16-13) in a first round game at Memorial Stadium and then lost to eventual I-AA national champion Southern Illinois in a second round game in 1983. We lost twice to SIU that year, a regular-season game at home and the playoff game at Carbondale. Two of our four losses that year were to the Dawgs (34-21 and 23-7) and finished with a 9-4 record (also lost at Illinois State in the Mike Prior game 37-20 and at Florida 17-13). We did indeed beat Ball U 35-14 that year at the RCA Dome.

Sean Payton was the EIU quarterback in 1983 and he still complains about the lack of a couple pass interference calls against the Sycamores in the Panthers' end zone. lol

We lost a home game to Middle Tennessee in triple overtime in the 1984 playoffs. We tried a fake extra point and tried to run it over after the third overtime session. One of the side blockers, fullback Jimmy Edwards, took the pitch from the holder and was stopped at the goal line.

It was a case where we couldnt stop them and they couldnt stop us. So we went for two off a fake PAT attempt after we scored in the third overtime. Both defenses were dead tired.

We finished up 9-3 in 1984 with losses to Tulsa, Western Illinois and Middle Tennessee. All three losses came in our final three games of the season. ISU had wins that year over Ball U (34-6), Louisville (44-21) and Central Florida (38-0).

Wasn't Wichita State also a Div 1-A school (like Tulsa)? NMex State was as well, no? Though NMSt had left the MoValley that year...

Didn't we spend 1985 as an Independent? Joined the Gateway in '86?

Hard to find accurate records on the MVC football
 
Wichita State dropped football in 1987

We beat the Shockers 24-22 in 1983 and didnt play them in 1984. We last played New Mexico State in 1982, winning 14-10.

And, yes, we were an I-AA independent for one season in 1985 while the powers-that-be figured out what they wanted to do.
 
Forgot that the West Texas St (now West Texas A&M) Buffaloes were also in the Mo Valley during those days
 
Weren't we an independent during the Jerry Huntsman glory days?

I thought during those years, Indiana State was a member of the ICC (Indiana Collegiate Conference). Along with Butler, St. Joseph, Evansville, and Depauw.....don't remember if there were any other members. At least that's my recollection.
 

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I remember West Texas State was supposed to host the MVC cross country meet in 1985 and none of the other MVC schools wanted to make that trip, so everyone pitched in and paid for WTS to come to Indiana State as we hosted the meet that year. Then in 1986-1987 West Texas State was no longer in the MVC. I think that's right.

Forgot that the West Texas St (now West Texas A&M) Buffaloes were also in the Mo Valley during those days
 
4q iu... well here we have it, anything and everything is on the internet.

some interesting reading in there!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Collegiate_Conference

We left the ICC (I believe) over the summer of 1968 (1968-69 Academic Year)
So, we were still a member during the College Division Finalist season but NOT a member that fall when the football team went 9-1.

Also see where the ICC football conf was called the Heartland vs ICC; haven't found the 'why' on that yet.
 
Before the Sycamores joined the MVC, they were offered an opportunity to join the MAC

along with Ball State. But ISU's president at the time, Dr. Alan C. Rankin, opted not to. Supposedly, the MAC wanted both ISU and Ball U as travel partner schools in the conference.
 
I was all for NOT doing it at the time but hindsight is 20-20. I think it would have been a great move looking back at it now. At the time we had visions of grandeur and obviously it somewhat backfired on us. Who knows?
 
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