poor decision on his part
http://www.courierpress.com/story/n...own-hall-meeting-next-friday-night/103668574/
http://www.courierpress.com/story/n...own-hall-meeting-next-friday-night/103668574/
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Bucshon dictates rules for town hall meetings...
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BankShot
The Kleuh Level
Just following protocol long-established & used by the League of Women Voters in their sponsored "cracker barrel" sessions, the Terre Haute Chapter being no exception while hosting their meetings @ the Vigo County Public Library @ 7th & Poplar.
Hasn't the "League" been long aligned w/ Demo principles throughout their history, dating back to the 1920's "Suffrage Movement?
http://lwv.org/history
Maybe the LWV should change their "cracker barrel" sessions, inviting a more open & emotional expression of ideas and thus establishing a model for "town hall" sessions?
Unfortunately this is a result of the poor decisions made by unruly crowds to disrupt invited speakers.
Why do the protests have to be so disrupting? Why not listen to the full speech to learn exactly what the speaker's stance is?
Why do protesters resort to starting fires and breaking windows? Why do Liberal speakers throughout the country not receive the same kind of mob treatment? Why does your belief in freedom of speech differ so much than mine?
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Exactly how does my freedom of speech differ from yours?
There are many examples of protesters on both sides of the political aisle that are impatient, inarticulate, disruptive, etc.
Disruptive or not; if a US Rep from Indiana accepts $$$ from Kansas, than a group of folks from Kansas should be able to attend a town hall hosted by that same US Rep and "express their views on what that US Rep is accomplishing or NOT accomplishing."
Likewise, if a bunch of Tea Partyers from West Terre Haute wish to donate $$ to a Defeat Rahm Emmanuel campaign, then they can drive to Chicago and protest his re-election...
isn't THAT "Freedom of Speech" as SO "eloquently articulated" in the Citizens United decision?
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The liberal agenda will destroy our country. And the MSM has trumpeted the liberal agenda so much that now the Democrat party is using it as their anti-Trump agenda.
I'm really irritated by the CNN hosts now yelling at Republicans for wanting to "take away money" from people in new healthcare bill. Do they realize that the federal government DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONEY because they have given it all away?
I'm really irritated by the CNN hosts now yelling at Republicans for wanting to "take away money" from people in new healthcare bill. Do they realize that the federal government DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONEY because they have given it all away?
Given it away...
Per ## provided by the fun folks at the heritage foundation:
45% (i.e. $0.45 of every dollar) of ALL Federal Spending is on "Major Entitlements" (aka Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, other health care)
19% on National Defense
19% on Veteran's Benefits & 'Income Security' (federal employee retirement & disability, unemployment compensation, food & housing assistance)
6% Interest on the Debt
3% on Transportation
1% on K-12 Education
7% everything else... (NASA, EPA, ATF, FBI, NOAA, Student Loans, Foreign Aid, UN, etc, etc)
http://www.heritage.org/budget-and-...bers-2013-government-spending-trends-graphics
Yes, and now, health insurance is considered the new entitlement. The poor want the free health care and they want the rich to pay more taxes.
The odd thing is, too, that the rich liberals are the ones petitioning on their behalf and the poor that are complaining the loudest are the least deserving of help. I get a kick out of the college kids setting fires in the name of income redistribution and most of them have never worked or paid taxes. And then they also want their college free.
The odd thing is, too, that the rich liberals are the ones petitioning on their behalf and the poor that are complaining the loudest are the least deserving of help. I get a kick out of the college kids setting fires in the name of income redistribution and most of them have never worked or paid taxes. And then they also want their college free.
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BankShot
The Kleuh Level
Never forget one Winter while up in the Toronto area and listening to CBN radio...the Cnucks were having a flu outbreak w/ all the hospital beds FILLED and treating people outside in ambulances. So much for "quality care" under SOCIALIZED medicine. Ever note how many Cnuck physicians "float down" to the USA? There's a rea$on...
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When you say "now, health insurance is considered..."
You are 1) aware that Medicare and Medicaid are both 50+ years old; brought forth by LBJ and his "Great Society"...
AND that 2) in 1912, Teddy Roosevelt ran on the Bull Moose platform for a national health service (would include all existing government medical agencies) & he was for social insurance (in order to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled...)
Yes, Medicare is for old and Medicaid is for poor. Obamacare is for everybody. It's the new entitlement.
Daveinth
The Wade Level
Is it really an entitlement if your paying for your premiums????
Nobody pays all of their premiums in a government program. The subsidized premiums are an entitlement. I guess you know that all of the government medical programs are a net cost to the federal government (taxpayers).
That's why we need to move back toward people paying for their OWN insurance and medical expenses. I don't believe the Constitution said that our medical expenses are supposed to be paid by our government.
I believe in a safety net for those that need it and deserve it, and for children. But we ALWAYS go too far on this stuff.
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The truth is MOST Americans don't pay for all of their own health insurance premiums.
The truth is ~99.5% of ALL Americans on Social Security draw far, FAR more out than they EVER paid in to that program.
The truth is ~99.5% of ALL Americans on Medicare far, FAR more out than they EVER paid in to that program.
And there's not HINT of Social Security OR Medicare in the Constitution
Except that those that have insurance through their employer are paying for all of their insurance. Part of it is just an implicit deduction from their wage.
You may know the real number, but I read one time that an average person would have to save something like 20% of everything he makes to pay for all of his social security benefits. But we can't save 20% and drive SUV's and live in a 2000 sq ft houses and eat at Applebees. So the government has to take care of us.
So, you subscribe to the theory that companies would give all of their employees a pay raise IF they dropped health insurance as a company fringe-benefit?
Self-Employed folks pay ~12.4% into social security; non-self employed pay~6.2% on earnings up to $127,800 in 2017.
https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/colafacts2017.pdf
It's all in the same bucket as a cost to employ someone. Insurance, holidays, vacation, sick time and bowling leagues are all employee costs. I think they typically add about 40% or more to salary to get an employee's total wage. To answer your question, yes. When I worked as a contractor, I was paid a market wage + about 30% to make my compensation equivalent to the marginal cost of an employee. Part of the costs are fixed, so I wasn't paid for those.