Former Wyoming QB Aaron Young transfers to Indiana State

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Jason Svoboda said:
Looks like we got a quick answer to the QB number question. Former Wyoming QB Aaron Young has transferred to Indiana State and will have two years to play.

http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/aaron_young_888659.html
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We've had more than a few of these western quarterbacks that have arrived after spring ball or in the summer and were "expected" to be the next great Indiana State QB. If you looked at how these QB's have panned out, they have been far from the "next great." I am happy that they have added to the depth chart for QB's and he looks like he might be promising on paper but i'd be even happier if our young freshman quarterback would give Aaron a run for his starting position. Of course, a 3rd QB would be even better!
 
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Bally #47 said:
We've had more than a few of these western quarterbacks that have arrived after spring ball or in the summer and were "expected" to be the next great Indiana State QB. If you looked at how these QB's have panned out, they have been far from the "next great." I am happy that they have added to the depth chart for QB's and he looks like he might be promising on paper but i'd be even happier if our young freshman quarterback would give Aaron a run for his starting position. Of course, a 3rd QB would be even better!
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Ronnie Fouch was a pretty successful "western QB". Hopefully this guy can take more after him than the others.
 
What do you mean by "western QB" -- are you talking west coast-style QBs or guys from the West Coast?

We've really only had 5 QBs from what I consider the West Coast since 2007-2008 in Schmidtke, Fouch, Glass, Kline and Adam unless I'm missing someone else? Fouch and Adam were both standout starters, Glass was Fouch's backup, Kline was Adam's backup and Schmidke probably would have been a big time player if he could have stayed out of trouble -- he was a Pac-10 talent. So two of the 5 from the list were backups of other West Coast QBs.

If you focus in on just California born QBs, we seem to have had pretty solid success with them in the last 8-10 years.
 

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Does a QBs native state REALLY factor into their ability for skill as a QB?

I think the days of Western PA kids being phenomenal QBs are over... just as is the case that "all Indiana" kids are fundamentally sound MBB players...

that MAY have been the case... I'm not convinced it is today
 
4Q_iu said:
Does a QBs native state REALLY factor into their ability for skill as a QB?

I think the days of Western PA kids being phenomenal QBs are over... just as is the case that "all Indiana" kids are fundamentally sound MBB players...

that MAY have been the case... I'm not convinced it is today
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I'd say that's because of the exodus from the rust belt to to the sun belt. Recruiting stats tell you that it matters.

Both Texas and California put out the most college and NFL starting QBs and have for awhile.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
I'd say that's because of the exodus from the rust belt to to the sun belt. Recruiting stats tell you that it matters.

Both Texas and California put out the most college and NFL starting QBs and have for awhile.
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So you are saying the states with more population produce more athletes?
 
Jason Svoboda said:
I'd say that's because of the exodus from the rust belt to to the sun belt. Recruiting stats tell you that it matters.

Both Texas and California put out the most college and NFL starting QBs and have for awhile.
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I'd agree that those two states may "put out the most college and NFL starting QBs and have for awhile..." but that's purely a factor of national population centers...

Are you saying there's something "magical" in the states of calif or tx that they and ONLY they can 'produce' the most college & NFL QBs?

Both states (and others) have 'better' weather that allows for year round practice OUTSIDE... but other than that...

I'll argue that that line of thinking is why Mike Trout went as low as he did in the MLB draft... too many teams said "new jersey doesn't' produce MLB talent..."

that same line of thinking led rex GROSSman to BEG u.fla to PLEASE take a peek at his hs football hi-lites... to paraphrase spurrier... "we don't recruit indiana..."

that SAME line of thinking would have 'GUARANTEED that the whiny, bitch of QB in new england would have been the #1 overall pick in the 2000 draft RATHER than the 199th pick (which is where he RIGHTFULLY should have been drafted)

Are some states 'known' for producing a type of player? Sure... is it ACCURATE? highly suspect
 

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It's hard to expect a freshman or transfer QB to come in and play well right away. Matt Adam was still progressing and it took Perish a couple of seasons to become a really good QB. Fouch has been the one exception.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
What do you mean by "western QB" -- are you talking west coast-style QBs or guys from the West Coast?

We've really only had 5 QBs from what I consider the West Coast since 2007-2008 in Schmidtke, Fouch, Glass, Kline and Adam unless I'm missing someone else? Fouch and Adam were both standout starters, Glass was Fouch's backup, Kline was Adam's backup and Schmidke probably would have been a big time player if he could have stayed out of trouble -- he was a Pac-10 talent. So two of the 5 from the list were backups of other West Coast QBs.

If you focus in on just California born QBs, we seem to have had pretty solid success with them in the last 8-10 years.
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Western meaning west of Colorado. California is obviously included in that. Listen, I am frustrated by the CA QB that was one of the best in his HS recruiting class before he arrived at his second school, ISU, another All State QB from CA, starter at Oregon State-Washington whatever, a MWC starter.....etc. all the hype and poof, they are hurt, they flunk out, drop out or pout on the bench. We have had mild success but these guys were supposed to be really good. ILSu brings in some players that turn their program around almost immediately. I know we play in the toughest league in the country but look at what the Redbirds have done. Were about .500 for the past 5-6 years minus that awful year, and ONE playoff win to show for it. I guess I am just frustrated. With our game attendance dropping pretty steeply last year, I don't think I am the only one that feels that way.
 
Thoughts: I believe the biggest factor in college football coaching in many areas, but especially in the recruitment area, is networking. Though, with his son and from his past coaching history, Coach Sanford seems to have a pretty good midwestern presence, it is clear that his recruiting wheelhouse, from a networking standpoint, is the West Coast and Western States. Will, this kid be a stud? Tough to tell. His tape looks okay, but, frankly, is not eye-popping. What he gives us is depth which we desperately need. I said this before and I'll say it again, though the QB is very important, our fortunes in 2016 will be far more determined by 2 factors: 1. The offensive line. (Ability to run block and especially pass block). 2. The defense-having lost 4 outstanding key players, can they be a positive factor for us? I am an optimist and think we'll be okay.
 

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4Q_iu said:
I'd agree that those two states may "put out the most college and NFL starting QBs and have for awhile..." but that's purely a factor of national population centers...

Are you saying there's something "magical" in the states of calif or tx that they and ONLY they can 'produce' the most college & NFL QBs?

Both states (and others) have 'better' weather that allows for year round practice OUTSIDE... but other than that...

I'll argue that that line of thinking is why Mike Trout went as low as he did in the MLB draft... too many teams said "new jersey doesn't' produce MLB talent..."

that same line of thinking led rex GROSSman to BEG u.fla to PLEASE take a peek at his hs football hi-lites... to paraphrase spurrier... "we don't recruit indiana..."

that SAME line of thinking would have 'GUARANTEED that the whiny, bitch of QB in new england would have been the #1 overall pick in the 2000 draft RATHER than the 199th pick (which is where he RIGHTFULLY should have been drafted)

Are some states 'known' for producing a type of player? Sure... is it ACCURATE? highly suspect
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I think it is a mix of all of it just like Florida and other Southern states are known for producing skill position players and DL/DTs. It may be totally coincidental but my guess is it is a result of population mixed with culture mixed with opportunity mixed with several other characteristics.
 
Having said all of that, I am firmly in coach Mike's corner. I know him and I certainly believe in him. We conjectured here a while back that they likely would go find a JC QB and it appears they found one. I still think we could use a 3rd but time will tell whether that is what they are thinking. Like all of you, I am just so anxious (and a tad impatient) to see them go to the next level, beating some of those MVFC heavyweights and play a playoff game or two.
 
the johnner said:
Thoughts: I believe the biggest factor in college football coaching in many areas, but especially in the recruitment area, is networking. Though, with his son and from his past coaching history, Coach Sanford seems to have a pretty good midwestern presence, it is clear that his recruiting wheelhouse, from a networking standpoint, is the West Coast and Western States. Will, this kid be a stud? Tough to tell. His tape looks okay, but, frankly, is not eye-popping. What he gives us is depth which we desperately need. I said this before and I'll say it again, though the QB is very important, our fortunes in 2016 will be far more determined by 2 factors: 1. The offensive line. (Ability to run block and especially pass block). 2. The defense-having lost 4 outstanding key players, can they be a positive factor for us? I am an optimist and think we'll be okay.
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I believe you left out a key factor and that is play calling. Many of the sacks given up by the offensive line were caused by QB bad decisions and his inability to use the pocket correctly. He would tuck and run at the slightest pressure and any DC will know this and use it. As far as run blocking as an OC you have to use your strengths and this is not the case. This year they should be run heavy even without Booker because if the inexperience we have at QB.


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