Indiana State Names Phil Ness Associate VP For Athletics Development

[Jason Svoboda]

ISU Foundation names Phil Ness associate VP for athletics development

College basketball coaching and athletics fundraising veteran Phil Ness is headed to ISU to fill a key role in athletics development for the Sycamores.

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[Jason Svoboda]

College basketball coaching and athletics fundraising veteran Phil Ness is headed to Indiana State University to fill a key role in athletics development for the Sycamores.

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[TreeTop]

Ummmm....this sounds pretty awesome.

I hope he contacts one notable alumnus with the initials LB.

 

[garyd63]

College basketball coaching and athletics fundraising veteran Phil Ness is headed to ISU to fill a key role in athletics development for the Sycamores.

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Here's a question for Jason (or anyone with the answer). The ISU Foundation has an associate vice president for development, athletics, ISU (see above), does the Foundation have a parallel and equal in power associate vice president for development, cultural/artistic, ISU administrator?

 

[Bally #50]

A Pennsylvania guy. I like that. Credentials look good. EXPERIENCE, experience, experience. Got to like that too. Sometimes it takes more than recognition.

 

[region rat]

Ummmm....this sounds pretty awesome.

I hope he contacts one notable alumnus with the initials LB.

You would think that would be a priority even before he starts work on January 2, 2013.

 

[Jason Svoboda]

Here's a question for Jason (or anyone with the answer). The ISU Foundation has an associate vice president for development, athletics, ISU (see above), does the Foundation have a parallel and equal in power associate vice president for development, cultural/artistic, ISU administrator?

What would the purpose of that job be?

 

[Bally #50]

Here's a question for Jason (or anyone with the answer). The ISU Foundation has an associate vice president for development, athletics, ISU (see above), does the Foundation have a parallel and equal in power associate vice president for development, cultural/artistic, ISU administrator?

The simple answer to your question is yes, and then some. I suggest you check as I did, the staff of the ISU Foundation listed on their page at indstate.edu. As I had expected, there are multiple people on that side of the organizational chart in "similar" positions. There is some overlap of duties but there is more than one VP that are overseeing the Development aspect for the Foundation. I am sure you have some kind of negative comment as to the whole set up or you wouldn't have asked and I would tell you that Ron Carpenter would be a good person to check with your concerns. He's extremely good at what he does and is easy to talk with. I am sure he will ease those concerns.

 

[garyd63]

The simple answer to your question is yes, and then some. I suggest you check as I did, the staff of the ISU Foundation listed on their page at indstate.edu. As I had expected, there are multiple people on that side of the organizational chart in "similar" positions. There is some overlap of duties but there is more than one VP that are overseeing the Development aspect for the Foundation. I am sure you have some kind of negative comment as to the whole set up or you wouldn't have asked and I would tell you that Ron Carpenter would be a good person to check with your concerns. He's extremely good at what he does and is easy to talk with. I am sure he will ease those concerns.

Followed your excellent advice. Nothing matching what I was looking and hoping to find. Nothing "similar" (not a term I used) to "associate vice president for development, athletics," no job fitting my description, an associate vice president for development, cultural/artistic "parallel and equal in power."

I certainly hope Mr. Carpenter listens and responds better than the missing Mr. X, that guy who left the shop under a cloud. There's one main question I would ask: If I didn't carefully designate "Theater" on my yearly contribution, to what Foundation efforts would my contribution go? Naturally I'm concerned that it not be used for any of the ISU athletic programs, for "development" or tape.

 

[Bally #50]

Followed your excellent advice. Nothing matching what I was looking and hoping to find. Nothing "similar" (not a term I used) to "associate vice president for development, athletics," no job fitting my description, an associate vice president for development, cultural/artistic "parallel and equal in power."

I certainly hope Mr. Carpenter listens and responds better than the missing Mr. X, that guy who left the shop under a cloud. There's one main question I would ask: If I didn't carefully designate "Theater" on my yearly contribution, to what Foundation efforts would my contribution go? Naturally I'm concerned that it not be used for any of the ISU athletic programs, for "development" or tape.

Trust me Gary, that side of the university is in excellent shape and is already laid out impeccably well. Whatever shortcomings you are worried about will be well covered under the "new" management. Athletic fundraising is an area that has taken HUGE steps in the past few years and ISU has no intent of dropping the ball in that area, period. I have not met Mr. Ness but Ron has not made a bad decision yet and I would tend to stay with his past history, that he has found yet another winner. Mr. X, as you so "bravely" mentioned, is gone and there is nothing there to dwell on. If he did not respond to your inquires that is not shocking, considering your past history and frankly, and with your way of dealing with issues, you just might have pissed him off. If that is what you are concerned with, then my suggestion to you stands, which is to talk one on one with Mr. Carpenter because he is top grade and ISU should be thrilled to have him as well as Mr. Ness. No way to measure your parallel or equal, but as I often say, you are making too much of nothing once again with no FACTS to back it up.

 

[IndianaState45]

Two VP development positions exist in addition to the athletic one. They encompass all academic responsibility and have many fundraisers and directors on their staffs. 80- 90% of the fundraising staff are dedicated to non athletic needs. Gary's just looking to complain again.

 

[Bally #50]

I know that. The organization chart has been revised and I it is a vast improvement from before. The SAF side looks to be stronger than ever now. Will see how Phil takes charge but I am confident that Ron has made another great hire.

It was pretty obvious to me that gary was just stirring the pot as he always does..

 

[Jason Svoboda]

Followed your excellent advice. Nothing matching what I was looking and hoping to find. Nothing "similar" (not a term I used) to "associate vice president for development, athletics," no job fitting my description, an associate vice president for development, cultural/artistic "parallel and equal in power."

I certainly hope Mr. Carpenter listens and responds better than the missing Mr. X, that guy who left the shop under a cloud. There's one main question I would ask: If I didn't carefully designate "Theater" on my yearly contribution, to what Foundation efforts would my contribution go? Naturally I'm concerned that it not be used for any of the ISU athletic programs, for "development" or tape.

The general fund to be done with as the Foundation wishes.

Just like if you want your funds to go to basketball, you've got to write basketball on it.

 

[Sackalot]

Well Gary

You have Jack Fox, VP of Development, you have John Heinz, Senior Director of Development, Catherine Saunders, Exec VP for Advancement and a 10 person staff in development for the college. That is not including the operations staff and the president's office staff like Charlie DeMaio, John Newton, Carpenter, etc. So, you have approx. 25 people working to raise funds in some capacity for the college and you have 4 raising funds for the athletics...tell me where there is a problem. The Priorities are in line, the foundation is doing their very best to raise money (heck they call me at least once every month). The arts are supported at ISU better than most schools...I had a conversation with a co-worker last week about that very topic. She has a music degree from UofIndy and she talked about how great ISU facilities are, how great they are supported in the arts, etc.

Hiring someone to grow the funds for athletics is a smart move! It means that less and less money will be needed out of the budget to pay for athletics! And let me remind you that built into student fees is the cost of "tickets" for athletics events which supplements the costs of athletics (does not pay for it all but sure helps).

 

[Bally #50]

Well Gary

You have Jack Fox, VP of Development, you have John Heinz, Senior Director of Development, Catherine Saunders, Exec VP for Advancement and a 10 person staff in development for the college. That is not including the operations staff and the president's office staff like Charlie DeMaio, John Newton, Carpenter, etc. So, you have approx. 25 people working to raise funds in some capacity for the college and you have 4 raising funds for the athletics...tell me where there is a problem. The Priorities are in line, the foundation is doing their very best to raise money (heck they call me at least once every month). The arts are supported at ISU better than most schools...I had a conversation with a co-worker last week about that very topic. She has a music degree from UofIndy and she talked about how great ISU facilities are, how great they are supported in the arts, etc.

Hiring someone to grow the funds for athletics is a smart move! It means that less and less money will be needed out of the budget to pay for athletics! And let me remind you that built into student fees is the cost of "tickets" for athletics events which supplements the costs of athletics (does not pay for it all but sure helps).

Thanks Sack, well said and this saved me a lot of time writing the same thing. This position, as well as Charlie's, was a long time in the making but frankly they BOTH are the right moves, spearheaded I assume from Ron Carpenter, who clearly has the "right" vision as well. Whatever Gary's take is on this, it will difficult to put a negative slant on it (of course we know is quite good at doing it).

 

[garyd63]

The general fund to be done with as the Foundation wishes.

Just like if you want your funds to go to basketball, you've got to write basketball on it.

Anyone know the breakdown of the general fund distributions (minus operating expenses) going to the Foundation's athletic support (including Rex) as compared to everything else.

While talking money, today's "ISU Statesman" has the start of a good conversation on ISU's Big Buck athletic program, total operating budget: $9,749,656. (And $9,749,656 is "Big Bucks" by my way of thinking. IU may pay one b-ball coach the obscene amount of $3.1 mil, but that's IU's immediate problem.) The "Statesman" story points out that "larger costs of sports facilities are provided through the university," which I take it comes from ISU's general fund, which comes from student tuition, fees, and taxpayer's pockets(?).

For the record, in 1997-98 ISU athletic department expenditures were $ 4,193,559.