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I have known John for years. He is a great man who will serve Indiana well, if given the chance. That he is back and considering a run for governor is the best news I have heard in a while.
 
I have never heard of him (and I lived in TH from 1996-2007), but good for him, ISU and potentially the district from which he comes. But it is going to be very, very difficult for any dem to beat Mike Pence when he announces his candidacy. TOOO many positives for Republicans to hang their hats on, while the Dems have next to nothing positive to show for the past 8 years. But we will see, it sounds like he probably won't run anyway from the article...doesn't want to miss kids growing up.
 
What are the positives the GOP and Pence can base a campaign upon?

I know that Indiana now has DST.

I-69 may (or may not be built/finished, etc)

The Indiana Toll-Road is now 'foreign-owned' for lifetime; that ONLY Indiana residents in abutting counties get the toll returned (a cozy behind the door deal between Daniels and the Michiana Reps/Senators)

That a LOT of Indiana gov't is now provided by FOR-PROFIT companies.

What's the unemployment rate in Indiana?
 
To many positives to list: Only real negative at this juncture is education which is a complete mess! But can be fixed with the right policies and iniatives.

Heres a few positives:
One of the economically responsible states in the country. Not in debt, not having to raise taxes.

Net increase in employment (this is arguable and I realize that).

Spending down, rainy day fund acutally serving rainy day function.

Multiple businesses expanding within the state in the next 2 years...4 in southern Indiana just announced last week.

Toll Road brought in billions (3.8) of dollars that will support counties through which the toll road runs and will create significant trusts to support those counties needs for upkeep to their portions and responsibilities, not to mention the fact that now the counties will not have to hire, support, pay insurance, etc. for employees over time. A great use of a lease that supports the concept of smaller gov't and that give the "people" an immediate return on investment while also creating private sector jobs.

Unemployment rate in Indiana currently is 9.1%. Illinois is 8.8 and Ohio is 9.3 and Michigan is 10.6% and Kentucky's just increased to 10.3%. Though Indiana is in the middle of this pack, it has been decreasing steadily since hitting the high in 2009. Lowest unemployment rate since 2009 currently. Besides, why work when you can go to Ivy Tech, collect $19K per year and not have to work? Oh and you can also collect unemployment for 2 years while you do it and have them pay for school...so you get to keep the entire 19K....

I-69, from all the data I am seeing and recent studies that are out there...it appears that most people don't seem to want I-69 to happen. I don't personally get that, but most in Indiana do not apparently think it is all that important. Businesses would like it (trucking, shipping, etc) but apparently, recent studies show that tolling isn't an option, it isn't very supported, etc. No sense to me...but then, I have no real need to go to Eville other than to visit a few friends every now and then.
And far more reasons the Dems have no chance in 2012.
 
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Sackalot said:
To many positives to list: Only real negative at this juncture is education which is a complete mess! But can be fixed with the right policies and iniatives.

Heres a few positives:
One of the economically responsible states in the country. Not in debt, not having to raise taxes.

Net increase in employment (this is arguable and I realize that).

Spending down, rainy day fund acutally serving rainy day function.

Multiple businesses expanding within the state in the next 2 years...4 in southern Indiana just announced last week.

Toll Road brought in billions (3.8) of dollars that will support counties through which the toll road runs and will create significant trusts to support those counties needs for upkeep to their portions and responsibilities, not to mention the fact that now the counties will not have to hire, support, pay insurance, etc. for employees over time. A great use of a lease that supports the concept of smaller gov't and that give the "people" an immediate return on investment while also creating private sector jobs.

Unemployment rate in Indiana currently is 9.1%. Illinois is 8.8 and Ohio is 9.3 and Michigan is 10.6% and Kentucky's just increased to 10.3%. Though Indiana is in the middle of this pack, it has been decreasing steadily since hitting the high in 2009. Lowest unemployment rate since 2009 currently. Besides, why work when you can go to Ivy Tech, collect $19K per year and not have to work? Oh and you can also collect unemployment for 2 years while you do it and have them pay for school...so you get to keep the entire 19K....

I-69, from all the data I am seeing and recent studies that are out there...it appears that most people don't seem to want I-69 to happen. I don't personally get that, but most in Indiana do not apparently think it is all that important. Businesses would like it (trucking, shipping, etc) but apparently, recent studies show that tolling isn't an option, it isn't very supported, etc. No sense to me...but then, I have no real need to go to Eville other than to visit a few friends every now and then.
And far more reasons the Dems have no chance in 2012.
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The employment/unemployment rate is also arguable... Why? Because the rate DOES NOT include people who have simply given up looking for work.
- A Wal-Mart expansion that includes PART-TIME jobs paying $8.00 per hour is not much of a job; especially when Wal-Mart will jack you around on getting 15 hours a week.

"Toll Road brought in billions (3.8) of dollars that will support counties through which the toll road runs and will create significant trusts to support those counties needs for upkeep to their portions and responsibilities, not to mention the fact that now the counties will not have to hire, support, pay insurance, etc. for employees over time. A great use of a lease that supports the concept of smaller gov't and that give the "people" an immediate return on investment while also creating private sector jobs."

Unless things have changed DRAMATICALLY, the counties play NO ROLE in maintaining, upgrading or working on the toll road.

The STATE oversaw maintenace and upgrades using FEDERAL dollars -- the COUNTY has ZERO ROLE. And now that the Australians/Spanish OWN the toll road, wouldn't THEY be maintaining and upgrading it? NOT the State?

The folks that worked the toll road were county employees?? Or STATE employees?

I am laughing at your comment of 'smaller goverment' in relation to the toll road that I cannot comment further. Thanks for the chuckle.
 
Sackalot said:
To many positives to list: Only real negative at this juncture is education which is a complete mess! But can be fixed with the right policies and iniatives.

Heres a few positives:
One of the economically responsible states in the country. Not in debt, not having to raise taxes.

Net increase in employment (this is arguable and I realize that).

Spending down, rainy day fund acutally serving rainy day function.

Multiple businesses expanding within the state in the next 2 years...4 in southern Indiana just announced last week.

Toll Road brought in billions (3.8) of dollars that will support counties through which the toll road runs and will create significant trusts to support those counties needs for upkeep to their portions and responsibilities, not to mention the fact that now the counties will not have to hire, support, pay insurance, etc. for employees over time. A great use of a lease that supports the concept of smaller gov't and that give the "people" an immediate return on investment while also creating private sector jobs.

Unemployment rate in Indiana currently is 9.1%. Illinois is 8.8 and Ohio is 9.3 and Michigan is 10.6% and Kentucky's just increased to 10.3%. Though Indiana is in the middle of this pack, it has been decreasing steadily since hitting the high in 2009. Lowest unemployment rate since 2009 currently. Besides, why work when you can go to Ivy Tech, collect $19K per year and not have to work? Oh and you can also collect unemployment for 2 years while you do it and have them pay for school...so you get to keep the entire 19K....

I-69, from all the data I am seeing and recent studies that are out there...it appears that most people don't seem to want I-69 to happen. I don't personally get that, but most in Indiana do not apparently think it is all that important. Businesses would like it (trucking, shipping, etc) but apparently, recent studies show that tolling isn't an option, it isn't very supported, etc. No sense to me...but then, I have no real need to go to Eville other than to visit a few friends every now and then.
And far more reasons the Dems have no chance in 2012.
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Federal government program called TAA or trade act adjustment . Not everyone is eligible for this program only companies that shut down and take their jobs out of the country . State of Indiana pays nothing as these are all federal dollars .
As far as roads lets talk about the condition of say Interstate 70 make sure when you drive that road you bring more than i spare tire its a joke and don't say its because of the weather its been that way for several years . education is being tore apart in this state and the Gubanor only wants to make things worse .
Mitch Daniels is the worst Govenor this state has ever seen he has zero chance of making it to the white house because all it takes is to look at the shambles he is leaving this state in NOT MY MAN is all i can say
 
Daveinth said:
...Mitch Daniels is the worst Govenor this state has ever seen he has zero chance of making it to the white house because all it takes is to look at the shambles he is leaving this state in NOT MY MAN is all i can say...
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I've heard Mitch won't be elected President because he short and bald.

LBJ or Eisenhower was the last bald president (depending on one's definition of bald)

I think the last President as short as Daniels was James Madison...
 
4Q_iu said:
I've heard Mitch won't be elected President because he short and bald.

LBJ or Eisenhower was the last bald president (depending on one's definition of bald)

I think the last President as short as Daniels was James Madison...
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Yeah, NO WAY he will ever win because of those reasons... :krazy:
 
Mitch running for president isn't the point (I don't think he has a chance).


The Toll road, I am talking about the Off ramps, roads off the off ramps, rest areas, etc.

And the argument is this simple to me. If you win the lottery for 100 million, do you take the cash upfront or the annuity?
I take the cash upfront without question. I can take that cash and make more money with it, do more things with it right away and assure that I have it.

Others may take the annuity and "trust" that the money will continue to come...

And that is the arguement from my perspective. take the money upfront or wait it out and allow the money to trickle in...

back to the original point. I doubt the Dems have much of a chance in Indiana, just look at what happened this past November. Unless the GOP royally screws things up between now and then...GOP is going to win most elections (certain area not withstanding). Also, Greg Ballard is going to be a big part of the GOP campaign. Most in Indy really like him...I am impressed with him though I don't live in Marion County. But as Mayor of the largest city in Indiana, he is a strong republican and he will obviously support a GOP candidate and vice versa, that is going to be a feather in the cap of the GOP in Indiana too.
 

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4q I was just making a point that who really cares about Mitch winning in 2012. That isn't the original subject of this thread.
 
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