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SycamoreFan317 said:
What is ISU doing to make itself stand out? Is the College of Education doing anything similiar to what ISU-M is doing with autism?

http://www.indystar.com/article/201...ic-kids?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com
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Stuff like this drives me crazy.
ISU is distinguishing itself by being considered one of the top universities for public education in the country. It has pretty much set the standard for other universities to follow in setting up the student/teaching experience.

Just because another university decides to begin researching a specific developmental issue, doesn't mean that ISU has "MISSED" anything.

IU, Ball State and others had a LOT of press about their wireless campus... People thought that ISU was "missing it". know why they got that press? Because they were given money from the state to implement that technology... ISU was already wireless in the public buildings, and in common areas in the dorms... and they did it WITHOUT any specific funding from the state.


Wilczynksi brings a wealth of experience to Ball State. A native Hoosier, she earned her Ph.D. at Indiana State University, then embarked on a career focused on autism study and research, culminating in an exhaustive, five-year research project called the National Standards Project.
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Feel free to look around at what ISU is doing here:
http://coe.indstate.edu/teachingcareers.htm
or here: http://coe.indstate.edu/dean/docs/fastfacts.pdf

Really wish I could change the title of this thread to something more appropriate:

Ball State to begin autism research within their teacher education program.

Or something like that... more appropriate.
 
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Eleven I agree, ISU is doing good things..and should be considered distinquished enough in and of itself. Problem is that the things that someone such as yourself or someone like myself that really makes an effort to be informed about doesn't make it into the media over in Indy. Everything that Ball State does makes it into the media pipeline in Indy, whereas little if anything about ISU makes it over here in Indy and if it does...it is on page 13 of 18 and lost in the shuffle.

Also, look at the part of hte article that talks about the new "center" type of concept which this family gave a great deal of money to create and is a great cause. Though ISU is stepping forward with this type of thing, raising money for various things rarely is it going to happen in the current climate. The issue really boils down to money and location. Even if this had happened at ISU, I doubt it would have been much of a story in Indy...
 
Sackalot said:
Eleven I agree, ISU is doing good things..and should be considered distinquished enough in and of itself. Problem is that the things that someone such as yourself or someone like myself that really makes an effort to be informed about doesn't make it into the media over in Indy.
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Does that mean that "ISU Misses again"? Or that the "Indy Star misses again" or "The Indy Star Hypes BSU for something that ISU already does again"?
 
Ball State makes more of an effort to be visible in Indy from their tv ads to print advertising to their downtown location. In addition, Muncie is in the Indy TV market and Terre Haute is not. I tried to change the title but could not after it is posted.
 
SycamoreFan317 said:
Ball State makes more of an effort to be visible in Indy from their tv ads to print advertising to their downtown location. In addition, Muncie is in the Indy TV market and Terre Haute is not. I tried to change the title but could not after it is posted.
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I agree... Butler, Ball State, IUPUI all have the benefit of being in the Indy market.

ISU has a downtown office (opened a few years back).
I think we can all agree that our marketing hasn't been the best historically.
ISU is getting better at letting people know about the good things that they are doing.
 

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ISU has an office for the Board of Trustees downtown that nobody knows about because it is high up inside a skyscraper. Ball State has a class room location downtown street level with huge red sign reading Ball State University.
 
SycamoreFan317 said:
Ball State makes more of an effort to be visible in Indy from their tv ads to print advertising to their downtown location. In addition, Muncie is in the Indy TV market and Terre Haute is not. I tried to change the title but could not after it is posted.
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Click edit, then advanced. Should be able to change title there. If you can't, it's a time issue--can only edit X minutes after posting I believe.
 
Funny, when I read the headline, I thought it meant we got snubbed for the girl's state finals in hoops again.
 

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Eleven said:
Stuff like this drives me crazy.
ISU is distinguishing itself by being considered one of the top universities for public education in the country. It has pretty much set the standard for other universities to follow in setting up the student/teaching experience.

Just because another university decides to begin researching a specific developmental issue, doesn't mean that ISU has "MISSED" anything.

IU, Ball State and others had a LOT of press about their wireless campus... People thought that ISU was "missing it". know why they got that press? Because they were given money from the state to implement that technology... ISU was already wireless in the public buildings, and in common areas in the dorms... and they did it WITHOUT any specific funding from the state...
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I placed in bold the portion of you comment that needs to be addressed:

The fact that gloomington, ISU-M, et al RECEIVED specific funding to go wireless PROVES that State has missed something. We've MISSED the ear of the appropriators in the State assembly.

You need to ask yourself why STATE ISN'T receiving those funds but other State-funded institutions ARE -- Because we DO NOT have a good relationship with the budget folks in Indy!
 
4Q_iu said:
I placed in bold the portion of you comment that needs to be addressed:

The fact that gloomington, ISU-M, et al RECEIVED specific funding to go wireless PROVES that State has missed something. We've MISSED the ear of the appropriators in the State assembly.

You need to ask yourself why STATE ISN'T receiving those funds but other State-funded institutions ARE -- Because we DO NOT have a good relationship with the budget folks in Indy!
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Did ISU ask to be included? If they already has the project done, perhaps they didn't meet the requirements to ask?
 
xfactor9600 said:
Did ISU ask to be included? If they already has the project done, perhaps they didn't meet the requirements to ask?
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Considering we're the runt pig in the litter; no, we probably didn't ask.

Though had we asked, would we have received the funding?
 
4Q_iu said:
Considering we're the runt pig in the litter; no, we probably didn't ask.

Though had we asked, would we have received the funding?
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It's hard to know unless ISU asked and they were turned down (assuming they qualified for the funding to begin with).
 
4Q_iu said:
I placed in bold the portion of you comment that needs to be addressed:

The fact that gloomington, ISU-M, et al RECEIVED specific funding to go wireless PROVES that State has missed something. We've MISSED the ear of the appropriators in the State assembly.

You need to ask yourself why STATE ISN'T receiving those funds but other State-funded institutions ARE -- Because we DO NOT have a good relationship with the budget folks in Indy!
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We were already putting our wireless in place with the money that we were already given.. (our standard budget).
 

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Eleven said:
We were already putting our wireless in place with the money that we were already given.. (our standard budget).
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So, we did in fact then lose out on additional monies, correct?

If ISU-M and Gloomington received an 'earmark' to go wireless and we DID NOT, then we've lost; because our cost of going wireless came at the expense of something else.

Now, if ISU-M and Gloomington DID NOT receive an 'earmark,' then it's a wash.

If it's a wash, it goes back to our yarn of no respect, recognition of the IndyStar OR a failure in the State PR & Marketing department.

State did a FABULOUS job in getting out the word WRT the Laptop PC program and providing a large number of them for free (as a scholarship). Shouldn't they have taken it one step further and got the word out on the State wirelss network?
 
4Q_iu said:
So, we did in fact then lose out on additional monies, correct?
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Don't know if those "additional monies" were available when ISU was putting the wireless in. Let's just say that we were "ahead of the pack".

I mis-spoke, money did not come from the state, it was part of a Lilly Grant for Ball State's "Media Design Initiative"..
$20 million in 2001, then $20 million more in 2005....
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?ID=16109
 
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4Q_iu said:
State did a FABULOUS job in getting out the word WRT the Laptop PC program and providing a large number of them for free (as a scholarship). Shouldn't they have taken it one step further and got the word out on the State wirelss network?
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Over 1,400 were given out last year.
Wireless was already happening on campus before the laptop program came about. They needed wireless in place before laptops were required.
 
We have broached a topic here that is really a core issue for ISU. ISU and the state house? We simply are not well represented at the state house. Many people are working on that and I applaud their efforts to improve, however, when you look at Ivy Tech, IU, PU, etc. We can't even hold a candle in terms of "CONNECTIONS" in Indy! Then when you look at corporate sponsorships, corporate donations, and LARGE grants, etc. We are SOOO far behind in that arena it is just crazy!!! When most other schools are being provided money (like in this BSU story) and we are not, you have to wonder why does ISU not have this happening? And if it is happening in terms of funding why don't we hear about it?
 
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