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Not sure I’ve ever seen ISU enrollment so low.….



 

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Not sure I’ve ever seen ISU enrollment so low.….




1952-53 ISU MBB guide states enrollment was ~2,000

COVID's put a dent in a lot of school's enrollment, expanding on-line options are take their cut
 
How low are we gonna go? I'm tired of hearing us blame covid...enrollment was starting to drop like a rock way before covid was a thing. I'm tired of hearing us talk about the fact that there are fewer high school graduates....this should have been and better have been known for almost 2 decades! Where are the solutions???

ISU is finally offering "free tuition" (remainder of tuition - grants/scholly's) to pell eligible in-state residents with a certain gpa (3.0 i think). While that's good IU and Purdue have been doing that for years (IU for at least a decade). Even Hanover has been doing this for years. Why are we so late in this? Only if we would've followed IU and Purdue in this initiative as fast as we did with the covid vaccine mandate.
 
I remember looking this up when the Valley explanation talks were including Texas and growing population areas and schools, and if I recall our enrollment has steadily declined since 2017 (maybe 2018). COVID may have exasperated the issues, but this is not a pandemic blip.

How has the population of Indiana, particularly teenagers, moved over the same time? I’m guessing there could be some correlation there.
 

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Most of ISU's "peer institutions"--at least athletic/conference peers--are doing just fine thank you very much.





Even SIU has stabilized:


UNI saw a dip but can still pay Jacobson his $1,000,000.00 a year for the remainder of the decade:

https://cbs2iowa.com/sports/panther... men's basketball coach,of the 2028-29 season.

And Illinois State, currently bad in football, recently raised millions for an indoor "practice dome":

 
Man, enrollment was around 12,000-13,000 when I was there and we were trying to get to the 15,000 mark (which I feel like is a sweet spot for ISU). President Bradley was killing it on so many levels; enrollment, engagement, athletics (Odum years, Shakir Bell, T&F was DOMINATING the MVC, baseball went to the NCAA, etc.), a lot of new development downtown. etc. It's sad to see all that momentum seemingly lost with the new administration.
 
But wait, our Administration has put all diversity initiatives into high gear resulting in an increase in minority enrollment from 26% to 27%
 

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I remember looking this up when the Valley explanation talks were including Texas and growing population areas and schools, and if I recall our enrollment has steadily declined since 2017 (maybe 2018). COVID may have exasperated the issues, but this is not a pandemic blip.

How has the population of Indiana, particularly teenagers, moved over the same time? I’m guessing there could be some correlation there.
I have never looked at the stats on this but it has been said for quite some time that there are fewer high school students in Indiana. (I don't know how long this window is supposed to last.) Thus the pool to draw from is smaller and our share of the pie is smaller. They knew this was coming years ago but seemingly put their head in the sand instead of planning for it.
 

Interesting article re: IU's growth this year:

Perhaps Pres. Curtis needs to place greater scrutiny on the $$$ ISU spends on woke/non-marketable academic areas such as "Gender & Sustainability Studies?"
I don't know if anyone is really touching on what has really happened with the enrollment count.

From what I've heard, Curtis decided NOT to count High School students and others who were taking on-line courses as FULL TIME students in the ISU head count.

Now why they were counting them as FULL TIME students in the first place is beyond me; and why they stopped counting/including them is another question.

I'm sure it some kind of Jedi accounting numbers game by the State of Indiana....and in three of four years there will be announcement that ISU student enrollment is up by 5,300 students.
 
It's been discussed in other articles that the new "best practices" in enrollment censusing is to not include duel credit students anymore.

ISU--especially ISU Athletics--needs a big, big fall class if they want to avoid impacting the budget. Per CSA ISU Athletics relies too heavily on student fees as it is...I'm not sure how it'll absorb a 10-15 percent cut. They're already at the D-1 minimum for sports programs or close to it. Maybe Angel and Co. are bridging the gap with increased fundraising I don't know.
 
I have never looked at the stats on this but it has been said for quite some time that there are fewer high school students in Indiana. (I don't know how long this window is supposed to last.) Thus the pool to draw from is smaller and our share of the pie is smaller. They knew this was coming years ago but seemingly put their head in the sand instead of planning for it.
Heard on NPR this A.M. that the State of Ohio is spending billboard $$$ in an effort to attract New England's CA-like "escapees." Perhaps they'll continue to the Hoosier State, spreading that vast "sanctuary" knowledge and enhancing population growth?
 

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I don't know if anyone is really touching on what has really happened with the enrollment count.

From what I've heard, Curtis decided NOT to count High School students and others who were taking on-line courses as FULL TIME students in the ISU head count.

Now why they were counting them as FULL TIME students in the first place is beyond me; and why they stopped counting/including them is another question.

I'm sure it some kind of Jedi accounting numbers game by the State of Indiana....and in three of four years there will be announcement that ISU student enrollment is up by 5,300 students.
WFIU-Bloomington (NPR) reported a 25% drop in ISU enrollment Monday morning...the "Magic #'s Game" being played by ISU Adm to keep their jobs?
 
This is gonna sound crazy but maybe Curtis is "tanking" enrollment numbers on purpose (only half kidding). This whole private school approach thing has me scratching my head a bit. Still very unsure how our approach is akin to that of private schools. Anyway, the new Admissions Director who has GOT to be under tremendous pressure, was hired a few months ago from Rockford University. Yes...that Rockford University. The one that I had never heard of until she was hired. The 4 year D3 private school. The one that has about 1000 undergrads and about 1200 students. The one that broke a 30 year record and increased their freshman class 39%, from 152 to 212 in Fall 2020. The one that has 10:1 student-teacher ratio. The one where 70% of the classes have fewer than 20 students.

I really hope Faith Haley has a great vision for ISU Admissions. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. But I have lots of doubt given her listed employment background at Rockford and the fact that she got her B.S. from Hope College, another small 4 year D3 private school. Can she flip the switch from recruiting the type of kid that goes to Rockford or Hope to the type that comes to State? I sure as hell hope so. The Interim Admissions Director is an ISU grad from Ben Davis who has worked her way up thru the ranks at ISU Admissions for about a decade. Maybe she interviewed poorly. Maybe she doesn't have great ideas. Maybe they thought she'd be just a holdover from the last 2 directors and wanted a fresh slate. Or maybe its part of The Process. Who knows?
 
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