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No; while he has a great record; what has he done to be called the GoAT (Greatest of All-Time)?
 
4Q_iu said:
No; while he has a great record; what has he done to be called the GoAT (Greatest of All-Time)?
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No one has ever managed a game quite like Larussa, on how many teams under some managers do players like schumaker and in a day and age of spending as much money as possible and having multiple superstars this team finds a way...he is an all time great.
 
Dgreenwell3 said:
No one has ever managed a game quite like Larussa, on how many teams under some managers do players like schumaker and in a day and age of spending as much money as possible and having multiple superstars this team finds a way...he is an all time great.
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this part is true.

But is he THE GREATEST of ALL-TIME? No

GoAT claims are great for argument sake...
 

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jlandrus23 said:
If he is not the all-time greatest, then who is?
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LaRussa is T2nd in tenure (33 yrs) trails Connie Mack by 20 yrs
LaRussa is 3rd in wins (2,728) trails Mack and McGraw
LaRussa is #60 in Win Pct (.536) but for managers with 15 yrs or more managing, he's #22.
LaRussa is T6th in Pennants won (6)
LaRussa is T6th in World Series won (3)
 
He belongs in the top echelon but I think Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Casey Stengel and Cornelius McGillicudy a/k/a Connie Mack are ahead of him in all-time statistics. Walter Alston belongs in the elite, too.
 
SycamoreSage said:
He belongs in the top echelon but I think Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Casey Stengel and Cornelius McGillicudy a/k/a Connie Mack are ahead of him in all-time statistics. Walter Alston belongs in the elite, too.
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Add Earl Weaver, Sparky Anderson , Dick Williams, Leo Durocher to that list?
 

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Not talking about that. That means nothing to me really. I'm talking win/losses, championships, win %...
 

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Dgreenwell3 said:
Torre won in new York with the largest payroll
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So what? You don't win in any market without players. Also, Torre's best teams had the Paul O'Neils, Scott Brocious, Bernie Williams types.

I'm not a Yankee fan at all, but Torre was a damn manager.
 
True Blue said:
So what? You don't win in any market without players. Also, Torre's best teams had the Paul O'Neils, Scott Brocious, Bernie Williams types.

I'm not a Yankee fan at all, but Torre was a damn manager.
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Not saying he wasn't good, but he has had a whole butt load more talent than Larussa I can only think of two managers that I would personally take over Larussa...I am biased though soooo hey. Sad to see Tony go, hope this doesn't hurt our chances of keeping Albert.
 
Dgreenwell3 said:
Not saying he wasn't good, but he has had a whole butt load more talent than Larussa I can only think of two managers that I would personally take over Larussa...I am biased though soooo hey. Sad to see Tony go, hope this doesn't hurt our chances of keeping Albert.
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LaRussa had talent in Oakland and St Louis; Torre winning in NYC was kinda like P Jackson winning in Chicago and LA... except torre's ego is VASTLY different than jackson's
 
4Q_iu said:
LaRussa had talent in Oakland and St Louis; Torre winning in NYC was kinda like P Jackson winning in Chicago and LA... except torre's ego is VASTLY different than jackson's
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Not the kind of talent that Torre had in New York.
 
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