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MVC expansion candidates

4Q_iu said:
Will you defend your claim of nashville as a "wonderful tv market"?
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#29, would be the biggest market in the MVC, potentially opening up recruiting opportunities that we might not otherwise have.

I'm not sure what you're looking for in a TV market, but that's a pretty good one in my mind...
 

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I find it funny that we are so out in the middle of nowhere but yet Denver and Oral Roberts are considered good candidates, some say we are almost to Canada? There are tons of schools closer to Canada than us. I don't care one way or the other but let's face it th MVC can't be to picky as there isn't exactly a lot of schools with big names and markets trying to get in. It seems odd for them to totally ignore NDSU and SDSU which are 2 state universities with good support, but if so then be it th Big Sky will be our only option and the MVFC will be no more if th Summit folds IMO
 
tjbison said:
I find it funny that we are so out in the middle of nowhere but yet Denver and Oral Roberts are considered good candidates, some say we are almost to Canada? There are tons of schools closer to Canada than us. I don't care one way or the other but let's face it th MVC can't be to picky as there isn't exactly a lot of schools with big names and markets trying to get in. It seems odd for them to totally ignore NDSU and SDSU which are 2 state universities with good support, but if so then be it th Big Sky will be our only option and the MVFC will be no more if th Summit folds IMO
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TJ you need to look at a map, the primary schools the MVC will consider will keep the MVC as a bus league. Even ORU would keep the MVC as a bus league. Tulsa used to be in the MVC up until 1996. It was a bus trip to get there. Tulsa is closer to most MVC schools than even Wichita State.

your schools are good schools, noone has ever said they're crappy schools. Geography will ALWAYS be your crutch. Just a fact of life. And like I said earlier, the south dakota schools aren't going anywhere, no way, now how are they giving up home court advantage for your league tourney.
 
IndyTreeFan said:
#29, would be the biggest market in the MVC, potentially opening up recruiting opportunities that we might not otherwise have.

I'm not sure what you're looking for in a TV market, but that's a pretty good one in my mind...
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Chicago is the #3 TV market (Loyola-IL, Valparaiso) Detroit is the #11 (UDetroit-Mercy), Tulsa is #61 (Oral Rbts), Omaha is #76... surprisingly Springfld MO is #74

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets


In a LOT of ways, I too would like to see us add an MVFC team OR have Drake commit to MVFC football... it'd be GREAT if we could land Dayton but I don't see that happening. Still zero interest in Denver.

I still like Valpo as an add over Belmont but if it's Belmont... so be it.

Back to Boda; ok see your point about monetary advantage but at the end of the day... home attendance IS a sign of a successful program; the jays haven't / didn't ALWAYS avg their latest avg. Hopefully, neither will we... as in; over time our hard-core ~4K fans become 9K hard-core fans. Hopefully we have SRO crowds.

As to when the Jays do leave... let's push for the experience WE had in 1977; since we were a "transitional" team (ie joining the Valley)
next year if the Jays are still in the Valley, they are INELIGIBLE for the MVC Tourney. The Colonial did it this year with Old Dominion and Ga State leaving for new conferences.

Thoughts?

And a story on Loyola for the uninformed: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ent-championship-50-year-anniversary/1973795/
 
ISUCC said:
TJ you need to look at a map, the primary schools the MVC will consider will keep the MVC as a bus league. Even ORU would keep the MVC as a bus league. Tulsa used to be in the MVC up until 1996. It was a bus trip to get there. Tulsa is closer to most MVC schools than even Wichita State.

your schools are good schools, noone has ever said they're crappy schools. Geography will ALWAYS be your crutch. Just a fact of life. And like I said earlier, the south dakota schools aren't going anywhere, no way, now how are they giving up home court advantage for your league tourney.
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We fly to Omaha and Wichita. It's another three or four hours to Fargo by ground, not really a deal breaker by any means.
 
bent20 said:
We fly to Omaha and Wichita. It's another three or four hours to Fargo by ground, not really a deal breaker by any means.
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Bent, I am referring to non basketball sports when I discuss the MVC as a bus league. Nearly all basketball teams fly to their games.
 

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looks like CU will be gone this summer per some interesting tweets from the A-10 meetings.

 
ISUCC said:
and this

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So....does thsi mean Dayton and SLU are on the outside looking in? I wonder if they'd have any interesting joining the MVC or if they'd still consider the A-10 a superior conference?
 
BrokerZ said:
So....does thsi mean Dayton and SLU are on the outside looking in? I wonder if they'd have any interesting joining the MVC or if they'd still consider the A-10 a superior conference?
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No, no, no. The NEW Big East will be the Catholic 7 (and Butler and Xavier AND Creighton for 2013-14 MBB season/school year.)

SLU and Dayton will join the NEW Big East for the 2014-15 school year/MBB Season.

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4Q_iu said:
SLU and Dayton will join the NEW Big East for the 2014-15 school year/MBB Season.
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Is this definitively going to happen? It makes some sense to add Dayton and SLU to the Big East, but it makes equally as much sense to keep them out of the new conference (without them you have a 10-team league, round-robin scheduling, less hands in the cookie jar, etc.). I've read so many articles and rumors on this that I'm starting to get blurry-eyed. As far as I know, the only "definites" that have been reported are Butler and Xavier joining. It appears Creighton is bound for the new league, but whether that's for 2013/2014 or 2014/2015 is the question. I don't recall seeing anything concrete regarding Dayton and SLU.

Maybe Dayton and SLU become more of a long term play for the MVC, assuming they want to hold out to see what happens with the Big East next year. And, then again, maybe I'm completely off base.
 
Here's an idea for the Valley.

Have at least 12 teams and 2 divisions a North and South. It could look like this.

North: UNI, Drake, Bradley, Illi St, Us (Valpo, Dayton, NDST, SDST, Oakland could be added here.)

South Evansville, SIU, MissouriSt, Wichita (Belmont, SLU, Murray St, Oral Roberts could go here.)
 
finally an official word on Butler

 

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Dont know if this was already posted, but Chicago Tribune article had this to say,.....

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/438/article/p2p-74834365/

Personally, I just don't care anymore. I am sick of hearing about all of this. I realize that Catholics aren't exactly known for being quick to make changes but come on. Can somebody over there just make a damn decision so the rest of us can get on with our lives? This thing has been dragged out about as far as it can go.
 
here is some food for thought. with creighton gone that GREATLY improves our chances to at least win in st. louis year in and year out (looking at the glass half full). but Butler is also going to the big east. with butler losing their mid-major status does this help Indiana State on the recruiting trail or hurt us. will butler be going after high-major recruits and leave mid-major type players for us, evansville, valpo, and ball state to duke it out in the hoosier state? or will butler just suck up every recruit ISU would love to land? thoughts.
 
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