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bent20

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Did anyone else notice how patient we seemed to be Saturday, and how many short passes we attempted compared to last year? I was really glad to see that. Let's work the TEs and screens all year long!
 

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bent20 said:
Did anyone else notice how patient we seemed to be Saturday, and how many short passes we attempted compared to last year? I was really glad to see that. Let's work the TEs and screens all year long!
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I was very impressed with our play calling on Saturday. I was pretty vocal last year about our "Shakir-Shakir-bomb" play book, but if Saturday was any indication, we're gonna be a lot more diverse this year. Can't wait to see our offense develop throughout the season!
 
Me and the gang I went to the game with had this conversation during the first half. Loved how we utilized the TE's and the short drop offs on screens. If Bell can continue to run it like we all think he will quick outlets along with some play action will have the LB's going nuts.
 
bent20 said:
Did anyone else notice how patient we seemed to be Saturday, and how many short passes we attempted compared to last year? I was really glad to see that. Let's work the TEs and screens all year long!
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I noticed this too the entire game, last year it was frustrating to see so many long passes and so few short passes, the plays we used Saturday night were great! I hope we continue to use the same type plays all season long.
 
The BTN announcers were very impressed with the Sycamores play calling. More than once they mentioned how much better our play calling was better than IU's.
 
Just about everything involved with our play calling seemed to improve from last year. Probably easy to say that when the offense was clicking as well as it was. I was a little surprised that after it worked so well ALL GAME, that we went away from using Shakir at crunch time. Easy to second-guess that but it caught me off guard that we would do that when he had that much success. The obvious answer to that is that he might have been "spent" but it did surprise me a bit. Anyone else feel that way?
 

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Our two minute offense was impressive as well, in both halves, along with our defense late in the game. After the failed fourth down attempt, we held with Indiana at our 40.
 
....and I said it at the time, DON'T UNDERESTIMATE the benefit of that late field goal in the first half.
 
bent20 said:
Did anyone else notice how patient we seemed to be Saturday, and how many short passes we attempted compared to last year? I was really glad to see that. Let's work the TEs and screens all year long!
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A lot of it was also the product of working Perish into the game and playing to our strength. Short passes are basically runs and that works well when you don't have the horses the opponents have. I'd imagine we'll see more intermediate routes in the Quincy game.
 
Bally #45 said:
Just about everything involved with our play calling seemed to improve from last year. Probably easy to say that when the offense was clicking as well as it was. I was a little surprised that after it worked so well ALL GAME, that we went away from using Shakir at crunch time. Easy to second-guess that but it caught me off guard that we would do that when he had that much success. The obvious answer to that is that he might have been "spent" but it did surprise me a bit. Anyone else feel that way?
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I figured they were resting him a bit for the grand finale inside the red zone. Probably one of those dropped passes away.
 

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Bally #45 said:
Just about everything involved with our play calling seemed to improve from last year. Probably easy to say that when the offense was clicking as well as it was. I was a little surprised that after it worked so well ALL GAME, that we went away from using Shakir at crunch time. Easy to second-guess that but it caught me off guard that we would do that when he had that much success. The obvious answer to that is that he might have been "spent" but it did surprise me a bit. Anyone else feel that way?
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In the 4th quarter, I believe they brought a safety down and were stacking the box to limit Shakir on the ground. If we could have kept completing those passes, they would have had to pull guys back and would have let Shakir have more touches.
 
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In the 4th quarter, I believe they brought a safety down and were stacking the box to limit Shakir on the ground. If we could have kept completing those passes, they would have had to pull guys back and would have let Shakir have more touches.
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That is what I saw too. Wish I could have been there, my 94 year old grandmother fell again on Friday night and was in terrible shape (broke her nose) so my babysitter (my mother) was forced to stay with her because she couldn't do anything on her own at all. So...I watched the game from home.
 
LoudNProud - thanks you beat me to that line. Now you can take the heat and rolled eyes of the rest of the Sycamore followers.

The play calling just shows what a great coach ISU has. IU got outcoached but still squeaked out a win.
 
I'm going to take a contrarian point of view of our play calling...I thought it was a little inconsistent. I suppose IU's defense was dictating our play calling for the most part, but it was apparent to me that IU could not stop Bell no matter what in the first half. I thought we had a chance to run down their throats all night, control the clock, and ware them down but we went away from the running game too much towards the end of the first half. We had a few three-and-outs where Bell never touched the ball, which made no sense at the time. Our defense played stout in the second half, and I felt like we got away from the run game too much and all allowed IU too much possession time.

I'll say it like this...I didn't have a huge problem with the play calling, but I think we can certainly improve in this area. I still believe we were the better team on Saturday and we should have won that game. A little change here and there could have made all the difference.
 

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We still should have ran a few more tosses off tackle even with eight up. Shakir has the speed and vision to take advantage. Not complaining though. I thought it was a good game from a play calling perspective.
 
I didnt have a problem with the play calling. i thought the calls in the 4th qtr put in a good position even though Shakir didnt get the ball as much. if we catch 2 or 3 passes this isnt even a thread.
 
Our play calling is top notch...that lil trick that we did before halftime to get that Field Goal was mind blowing, and that small dump pass to Austen Wozniak #48, when we had everyone bunched in on that 4th down with Shakir in the backfield, had the entire stadium sucked in. No one saw that play coming...no one.

Now my criticism....we did it for two years with Fouch, and we did it quite a few times with Perish against IU.....STOP running 20, 25, 35 and 40 yard pass patterns!!!

Those plays are incredibily hard to develop and complete, unless you have a potential Draft pick at QB and pro-grade wide outs. Perish was tremendous with dink and dunk, and quick 5 - 10 yard passes. There is NO embarrassment in dinking and dunking your way down the field. Joe Theisman made a career out of it...and if you would look at Mannings passes, what percent of those are quick slants, and 8 yard down and outs. Lots.

Keep the pass play calling within the skill level of your players, and move the ball down the field.
 
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