OVC and Missouri State Update (March 2023)

[Sycamorefan96]

Here's what I'm hearing now about mid-major conference realignment

Realignment isn't just about the P5. It goes all the way down to DII

www.extrapointsmb.com

It looks like the OVC may be trying to add the West Georgia Wolves which currently play in D2's Gulf South Conference. UWG is about an hour east of where former member Jacksonville State is located. They would give the OVC 11 full members and would be the OVC's 7th football member. My guess is that the OVC is trying to get back up to 12 full-members, with 8 of those having football.

Missouri State also had a meeting, but it appears they will be staying in the MVC for a while longer, unless the Sun Belt becomes interested. Their AD Kyle Moats claims the meeting was not about any FBS interests. MSU reportedly turned down a CUSA invite last year.

 

[bent20]

Beginning to think ISU's complacency and lack of any apparent planning or long-term vision may work out, as more of the better funded teams at our level move up and more D2 teams replace them in the mid-majors.

 

[BankShot]

Here's what I'm hearing now about mid-major conference realignment

Realignment isn't just about the P5. It goes all the way down to DII

www.extrapointsmb.com

It looks like the OVC may be trying to add the West Georgia Wolves which currently play in D2's Gulf South Conference. UWG is about an hour east of where former member Jacksonville State is located. They would give the OVC 11 full members and would be the OVC's 7th football member. My guess is that the OVC is trying to get back up to 12 full-members, with 8 of those having football.

Missouri State also had a meeting, but it appears they will be staying in the MVC for a while longer, unless the Sun Belt becomes interested. Their AD Kyle Moats claims the meeting was not about any FBS interests. MSU reportedly turned down a CUSA invite last year.

"Rap Cat" (aka Rapala) has some ties here, as ROGER KAISER, a fellow Dale, IN product and IN All-star/GA Tech star, laid the foundation for West Georgia basketball!

Roger Kaiser Elected to Small College Basketball Hall of Fame - UWG Wolves | Athletic Programs | Official Athletics Site

CARROLLTON, Ga. – The man who led West Georgia to a national title on the hardwood has been elected to the Class of 2020 of the Small College Basketball National

uwgathletics.com

Roger Kaiser - Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame

Scored 1549 career points at Dale High School; 4-year varsity player. Graduated in 1957. Member of Indiana All Star team in 1957. Was a 3-year starter at Georgia Tech. Selected MVP All-Southeast Conference, two years. All American 1959-60; team captain two years. Played ABA pro ball with...

hoopshall.com

Roger Kaiser - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Georgia Tech great Roger Kaiser has special ties to Hinkle Fieldhouse

Georgia Tech legend Roger Kaiser was there for the most famous game ever played at Butler’s Hinkle Fieldhouse in Indianapolis – the 1954 Indiana state high-school championship game won by tiny Milan High, the game that provided the inspiration for the movie “Hoosiers.”

www.ajc.com

Behind the Banner: Roger Kaiser

Indiana native comes South, becomes Tech’s first All-American, leads Jackets to first NCAA Tourney

ramblinwreck.com

Famed basketball player and coach Roger Kaiser to sign copies of his biography Feb. 1 at Dogwood Books

Georgia Tech basketball legend Roger Kaiser will sign copies of his biography, "If It Feels Like Leather, Shoot It" at Dogwood Books on Feb. 1 from 2-4 p.m.

www.northwestgeorgianews.com

 

[Westbadenboy]

I'm really confused ....I know ..... I know
First I read Missouri State is looking at going FBS. Don't know why, they have had no major success at FCS. But OK
Now I read they might jump down to the OVC .....down to the OVC. What ? Why ?
Talk about schzoid -- what am I missing ???

 

[Sycamorefan96]

I'm really confused ....I know ..... I know
First I read Missouri State is looking at going FBS. Don't know why, they have had no major success at FCS. But OK
Now I read they might jump down to the OVC .....down to the OVC. What ? Why ?
Talk about schzoid -- what am I missing ???

Missouri State is not moving to the OVC. It's just one article that has a piece about West Georgia possibly moving up to D1 (OVC) and a piece about MSU having an athletics meeting and the AD claiming that it had nothing to do with moving to FBS. Two separate stories in one article.

 

[niklz62]

I'm really confused ....I know ..... I know
First I read Missouri State is looking at going FBS. Don't know why, they have had no major success at FCS. But OK
Now I read they might jump down to the OVC .....down to the OVC. What ? Why ?
Talk about schzoid -- what am I missing ???

not sure success is a always a factor for teams moving to FBS

 

[Sycamorefan96]

Beginning to think ISU's complacency and lack of any apparent planning or long-term vision may work out, as more of the better funded teams at our level move up and more D2 teams replace them in the mid-majors.

I think ISU's vision has always been "look at all of the good teams that we play (that also kick our rears) every season", while proudly waving their MVC flag. A lot of other teams in our league seem to have that same mindset and they've depended on Creighton, Wichita State, North Dakota State, Dallas Baptist, and Loyola to keep the league nationally relevant. Now the league is betting on Murray State and Belmont to continue carrying the torch of relevancy.

 

[niklz62]

I think ISU's vision has always been "look at all of the good teams that we play (that also kick our rears) every season", while proudly waving their MVC flag. A lot of other teams in our league seem to have that same mindset and they've depended on Creighton, Wichita State, North Dakota State, Dallas Baptist, and Loyola to keep the league nationally relevant. Now the league is betting on Murray State and Belmont to continue carrying the torch of relevancy.

If they knew that NDSU and SDSU were going to leave in football when they got a reasonable FBS offer Id be ok sticking around doing what they are doing for now.

 

[4Q_iu]

I think ISU's vision has always been "look at all of the good teams that we play (that also kick our rears) every season", while proudly waving their MVC flag. A lot of other teams in our league seem to have that same mindset and they've depended on Creighton, Wichita State, North Dakota State, Dallas Baptist, and Loyola to keep the league nationally relevant. Now the league is betting on Murray State and Belmont to continue carrying the torch of relevancy.

No. Dakota State isn't an MVC member, Dallas Baptist was an associate (DBU is now a an associate/affiliate member of the C-USA's baseball lineup); does DBU have another program at the Div I level? It's baseball and...

 

[niklz62]

No. Dakota State isn't an MVC member, Dallas Baptist was an associate (DBU is now a an associate/affiliate member of the C-USA's baseball lineup); does DBU have another program at the Div I level? It's baseball and...

creighton and wichita state? i think you missed his point.

 

[4Q_iu]

creighton and wichita state? i think you missed his point.

No - he was dropping his typical harrangue about the MVC but included a non-MVC member (No. Dakota St) and a former MVC associate/affiliate member.

The rest of the teams were full (former) MVC members but if he's going to wear out the keyboard than add ALL of the former MVC members - 25 schools have left the MVC for another "home," 13 associate schools have left...

 

[swsycamore]

"Rap Cat" (aka Rapala) has some ties here, as ROGER KAISER, a fellow Dale, IN product and IN All-star/GA Tech star, laid the foundation for West Georgia basketball!

Roger Kaiser Elected to Small College Basketball Hall of Fame - UWG Wolves | Athletic Programs | Official Athletics Site

CARROLLTON, Ga. – The man who led West Georgia to a national title on the hardwood has been elected to the Class of 2020 of the Small College Basketball National

uwgathletics.com

Roger Kaiser - Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame

Scored 1549 career points at Dale High School; 4-year varsity player. Graduated in 1957. Member of Indiana All Star team in 1957. Was a 3-year starter at Georgia Tech. Selected MVP All-Southeast Conference, two years. All American 1959-60; team captain two years. Played ABA pro ball with...

hoopshall.com

Roger Kaiser - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Georgia Tech great Roger Kaiser has special ties to Hinkle Fieldhouse

Georgia Tech legend Roger Kaiser was there for the most famous game ever played at Butler’s Hinkle Fieldhouse in Indianapolis – the 1954 Indiana state high-school championship game won by tiny Milan High, the game that provided the inspiration for the movie “Hoosiers.”

www.ajc.com

Behind the Banner: Roger Kaiser

Indiana native comes South, becomes Tech’s first All-American, leads Jackets to first NCAA Tourney

ramblinwreck.com

Famed basketball player and coach Roger Kaiser to sign copies of his biography Feb. 1 at Dogwood Books

Georgia Tech basketball legend Roger Kaiser will sign copies of his biography, "If It Feels Like Leather, Shoot It" at Dogwood Books on Feb. 1 from 2-4 p.m.

www.northwestgeorgianews.com

Roger's brother Joe was one of my college roommates.

 

[niklz62]

No - he was dropping his typical harrangue about the MVC but included a non-MVC member (No. Dakota St) and a former MVC associate/affiliate member.

The rest of the teams were full (former) MVC members but if he's going to wear out the keyboard than add ALL of the former MVC members - 25 schools have left the MVC for another "home," 13 associate schools have left...

yeah but I think the conference has been doing that with the teams he mentioned aside from NDSU and it still fits his narrative in the football conference. Calling it the MVC isnt any worse than referring to either conference as the Missouri Valley. I think we could figure out if we are talking about the MVC, the MVFC or a location around a river.

 

[BankShot]

Roger's brother Joe was one of my college roommates.

Joe was a Realtor in Dale/ Christmas Lake Village in the late 80's when I hired & trained him for the U.S. Census in Warrick/Spencer County. Sadly, he passed away a few yrs. ago. His boys played in LL Baseball tournaments against my nephews from Boonville. Helluva nice guy.

 

[Sycamorefan96]

No. Dakota State isn't an MVC member, Dallas Baptist was an associate (DBU is now a an associate/affiliate member of the C-USA's baseball lineup); does DBU have another program at the Div I level? It's baseball and...

Let me help you out.

MVC Info:
Missouri Valley Conference
1818 Chouteau Ave.
St. Louis, Missouri 63103
Main Phone: 314-444-4300
Fax: 314-444-4333

MVFC Info:
1818 Chouteau Ave. | St. Louis, MO 63103
(p) 314.444.4360

Pictures of the logos below which look strikingly similar too. If they're truly different leagues maybe the MVC should sue the MVFC for copying their name and their logo.

See the similarities???

 

[4Q_iu]

Let me help you out.

MVC Info:
Missouri Valley Conference
1818 Chouteau Ave.
St. Louis, Missouri 63103
Main Phone: 314-444-4300
Fax: 314-444-4333

MVFC Info:
1818 Chouteau Ave. | St. Louis, MO 63103
(p) 314.444.4360

Pictures of the logos below which look strikingly similar too. If they're truly different leagues maybe the MVC should sue the MVFC for copying their name and their logo.

See the similarities???

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Let me help you out... Are these birds the same?



How about these cats, are they the same?



Why don't you call Patty Viverito and ask her if she has one job or two?

Just because YOU think something looks similar doesn't mean it's the same.

 

[Sycamorefan96]

Let me help you out... Are these birds the same?

How about these cats, are they the same?


Why don't you call Patty Viverito and ask her if she has one job or two?

Just because YOU think something looks similar doesn't mean it's the same.

Patty V is literally listed on the MVC Staff Page with the Title "MVFC Commissioner". She was also the associate MVC Commissioner for a very long time. Why is she even listed on that page at all if the MVFC is a totally separate entity? The answer is because it's not. The MVFC is owned by the MVC.

Staff Directory - Missouri Valley Conference

The official athletics website for Missouri Valley Conference

mvc-sports.com

 

[Sycamorefan96]

Actually 4Q you may understand this one better.

 

[4Q_iu]

'69er

You need to apologize to Ms. Viverito, she's also the Pioneer Football League (PFL) Commissioner, I don't think she's stepped down from her role as an Associate Commissioner for the MVC.

As much as I'm sure it pains you to realize you're (again, still, perpetually) wrong, the following is true.



Enjoy hauling load after load of contaminated soil from East Palestine to the nearest soil remediation facility - hasn't the old Newport site transitioned into one?

 

[Sycamorefan96]

I think almost everyone on this message board understands that legally the MVC and MVFC are not the same conference. That's obviously not the point. Apparently you just can't put two and two together.