Todd Golden defends the MVC

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The following is a quote from the Creighton's "The Other Side" coverage of their sports programs...
The full article can be found here (and it's pretty good - and something that would be NICE to have in Indiana State coverage somewhere):
http://whiteandbluereview.com/?p=21646

But I'd like to put this out there for the rest of us to discuss:
White and Blue Review said:
WBR: With the changing landscape due to conference realignment, what impact would it have on the MVC if Creighton did leave at some point? Would Indiana State look to stay in the MVC long term?
Todd Golden said:
TG: Unless something crazy happens, Indiana State isn’t going anywhere, and if Creighton leaves, and with the caveat that you never say never in the current landscape, I doubt anyone else is going anywhere either.
Losing Creighton would hurt the MVC, the Bluejays are a great program (in several MVC sports) with name-recognition in a vibrant city. I know I’d miss them, though I understand the move completely if it were to happen.
But would a Creighton exit be a fatal blow to the MVC? No way. Allow me to rant for a moment.
I read a lot of fan reaction to the MVC and it amazes me how there’s a significant portion who think so low of a league that’s never been out of the RPI top 10 in my nine seasons in covering it.
Fans see a Xavier in another conference, such as the Atlantic 10, and get excited about the possibility of joining them, but forget there’s a St. Bonaventure, Duquesne and Fordham there too that make the A-10 comparable to the MVC in most seasons, and sometimes, inferior to it.
The bain of conference realignment is that it’s made everyone think the grass is greener on the other side. There are fans of some schools who have their bags packed and have one foot out the door because the MVC doesn’t live up to their perception of where their school is and should be because their knee-jerk reaction is to think less of it.
The truth is much harsher than that … but with an upshot.
For all of the fan hysteria about what conference their school is going to jump to if the MVC were to implode, I’ve never seen a single reputable source that has any of the MVC schools — aside from Creighton — going anywhere.
A scientific study could be done on the group-think it takes among some on a message board fanbase like, say, Wichita State’s, to speculate amongst themselves about moving to the Mountain West Conference, then collectively convince themselves it could happen, and then think it’s a distinct possibility it will happen.
This despite the fact that WSU doesn’t play football, which drives the vast majority of these moves, and that it’s never once been mentioned as an expansion candidate for that conference, or any other that I’m aware of, by anyone other than people speculating on message boards or blogs. It’s pie-in-the-sky.
Same goes for the assumption among some that Northern Iowa and Illinois State will move up to FBS football.
Though both schools have talked about the possibility of exploring a move, neither is immediately ready for it, nor are there any FBS conferences knocking down the door to get them. A school can’t just move up from FCS football to FBS on a whim, it has to be invited by a conference, and that’s not a gimme for either school by any stretch because neither brings the all-important market to the equation.
The upshot in all of this is that there’s a lot in the MVC that all 10 schools have built and should be collectively proud of despite their differences in budget, institutional outlook, etc.
As I mentioned earlier, the conference has balance that gets overlooked, which speaks to the collective quality of programs within it. The teams that are down at present, Missouri State and Southern Illinois, have both won regular season MVC championships in the last decade. Every team, save Illinois State and Missouri State, has been in the NCAA Tournament in the last 10 years, many several times over.
The MVC makes geographic sense. It has long-time rivalries. It has a storied history. It is respected nationally, in some ways, more than it is by some of its own fans.
It has a conference tournament that gets panned by fans who take it for granted, who haven’t attended other conference tournaments (as I have), and who fail to realize how vibrant and fun it is. There are conferences perceived to be “better” than the MVC that would kill for the Arch Madness turnout and atmosphere.
Conference realignment has conditioned fans to tear down what they have and look elsewhere instead of looking within themselves and realizing how good they have it.
The MVC will be strong without Creighton. It’ll be even stronger if Creighton stays. It’s time for that to be said by someone.

I think it's a very good response to the question, especially considering the audience this will be distributed to.

Well done Todd.
 

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I will give you a perfect example of what he is talking about in regards to other conference tournaments, the A-10. They play it at Boardwalk Hall (I think that is the name) that is a multipurpose facility in Atlantic City. The atmosphere is horrible and no matter who is in the finals, the place is like a morgue.
 
Too many fans, particularly young fans, think that a different conference will solve all their team's woes. What people (like Creighton fans) forget is that their success was achieved in the conference that they hate so much, and because of that conference, not in spite of it. To quote the much used old adage, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I wonder how much of this talk is purely fan based, with little grounding in reality...
 
I don't think it's just young fans. I think it's middle aged ones who look at sports as a business and think the outcome of every decision you make is black and white. What needs to be said is "yes" or "no." Make a decision Creighton.
 
Didn't Tulsa bolt from the MVC a few years back? I don't think it has worked out all that well for them. There have been other changes over the years and the MVC survived.
 
Didn't Tulsa bolt from the MVC a few years back? I don't think it has worked out all that well for them. There have been other changes over the years and the MVC survived.

That was a brilliant move for them, look at the improvements they have made to campus and increase in their endowment. I just don't see the benefit for CU if they have to take all sports to expensive.
 
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Agrinut, I seriously did not know if it helped Tulsa or not. I have not really payed that much attention to Tulsa. What were the other teams that left for other conferences? I'm thinking from the Bird era. I know New Mexico State was one and a Texas school. I will have to dig out my old t shirt from that era and take a look at the logos.
 
When did those three teams leave the conference. I know that Tulsa was still there in the mid 80's when I was still at ISU. I think I remember them leaving maybe after I graduated. I remember Northern Iowa coming in but not sure who they replaced. I know Evansville was not in the MVC when I was in college. Somebody help this old guy remember this stuff.
 
Bottom line, this is what everyone is looking for. Everyone is looking for a situation where they wont have to win the conference tournament each year to make the NCAA tournament. That is what this is about. If IU loses seven conference games, they only hurt their seeding, but they will still make the dance. If a team loses seven conferences games in the MVC, we have to win the tournament. That is what Creighton wants. They want a conference where finishing third or fourth in the conference is still good enough to get into the dance. Will they find it, who knows?
 

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I will give you a perfect example of what he is talking about in regards to other conference tournaments, the A-10. They play it at Boardwalk Hall (I think that is the name) that is a multipurpose facility in Atlantic City. The atmosphere is horrible and no matter who is in the finals, the place is like a morgue.

The A10 has moved to the Barclays.Center effective this season fyi.

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