Two shooting threats at ISU today

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One threat was posted on a social media site last night suggesting a school shooting was going to happen at ISU today, and then early this afternoon, a note was found in a University Hall bathroom stating that shooting would start at 1:15 (or 2:15, I can't tell which is accurate) and promised Jihad.

If this is a joke, and it probably is, it is in REALLY poor taste...:nono:
 

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Honestly, I hope the social media company provides the IP address to the University and then that student is expelled when they determine who it is. If the app provider won't comply, I'd simply block all traffic to that site on the school network.
 
Sycamore Proud said:
Do they know it is a student. IMHO, expulsion is too light a penalty. Prosecute and expel is more in line if a student.
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No, but I'd say it is a high probability that it is. The way that particular app works, the post had to have been made by someone within a 5 mile radius. If the dumbass did it on a campus connection, it would be insanely easy to track them down.
 

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sycamorebacker said:
Are students allowed to carry guns for self defense on campus?
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Nope you will be immediately expelled if you do. It is not against the law and they can not take you to jail for it if you have your permit. ISU can escort you off campus and expel you.

Pretty controversial topic and I don't really wanna argue because there are plenty of people that can go either way.
 
GuardShock said:
Nope you will be immediately expelled if you do. It is not against the law and they can not take you to jail for it if you have your permit. ISU can escort you off campus and expel you.

Pretty controversial topic and I don't really wanna argue because there are plenty of people that can go either way.
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I know. It's a controversial subject that should not be. Rules like that make people an easy target. Until we get our constitutional rights back, schools will continue to be targeted by madmen.
 
GuardShock said:
Nope you will be immediately expelled if you do. It is not against the law and they can not take you to jail for it if you have your permit. ISU can escort you off campus and expel you.

Pretty controversial topic and I don't really wanna argue because there are plenty of people that can go either way.
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Here is a link to a quick article on who can and can't carry on campus. I have my permit and I wouldn't dream of carrying on a campus. When they close a campus because they see "a man with a gun" and it turns out to be a guy with an umbrella, it's not worth the hassle. I'll wait until the laws are more defined on schools abroad before I bring one on a campus.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/education/guns-on-campus-overview.aspx
 
I will simply say this - if some jackass is going to come on campus and start shooting at me, I would really like to be able to shoot back. Otherwise, I'm just a sitting duck who hopes he's good at hiding...:chainedup:
 

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The Fungo said:
Here is a link to a quick article on who can and can't carry on campus. I have my permit and I wouldn't dream of carrying on a campus. When they close a campus because they see "a man with a gun" and it turns out to be a guy with an umbrella, it's not worth the hassle. I'll wait until the laws are more defined on schools abroad before I bring one on a campus.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/education/guns-on-campus-overview.aspx
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So in IN it's up to the individual school. So ISU has taken the position that if they don't allow concealed carry, then that will prevent a mad man with an AR-15 from bringing his gun onto campus. And if the mad man chooses to disregard the "rule" then 20-40 students would be sitting ducks.

When I took the Logic course, I must have missed that day.
 
Quick scenario. Wonder what would happen.

Say a shooter(Bad guy) started to shoot students, then another student(Good guy) who had concealed his and was a law abiding(but rule breaking for ISU campus) student happened to shoot and kill the bad guy. Would the good student be praised for saving lives and then kicked out of ISU?

I feel like that's a good question for Mr. President Bradley.
 
GuardShock said:
Quick scenario. Wonder what would happen.

Say a shooter(Bad guy) started to shoot students, then another student(Good guy) who had concealed his and was a law abiding(but rule breaking for ISU campus) student happened to shoot and kill the bad guy. Would the good student be praised for saving lives and then kicked out of ISU?

I feel like that's a good question for Mr. President Bradley.
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That's an outstanding question. I would almost bet that his expulsion would happen. But it would be interesting to hear Dr. Bradley's take on it...
 
GuardShock said:
Quick scenario. Wonder what would happen.

Say a shooter(Bad guy) started to shoot students, then another student(Good guy) who had concealed his and was a law abiding(but rule breaking for ISU campus) student happened to shoot and kill the bad guy. Would the good student be praised for saving lives and then kicked out of ISU?

I feel like that's a good question for Mr. President Bradley.
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Add some other factor(s) such as the the law abiding-ISU rule breaking good guy also hitting 1-2 or 3 other students in the crossfire... is he/she still a hero? Would they face charges? SHOULD they face charges?
 
4Q_iu said:
Add some other factor(s) such as the the law abiding-ISU rule breaking good guy also hitting 1-2 or 3 other students in the crossfire... is he/she still a hero? Would they face charges? SHOULD they face charges?
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Yes. Having a gun doesn't mean someone is trained to deal with the situation. They likely will fill face lighter charges, but they're still looking at a possible homicide conviction and years in prison.

I think my biggest concern about people carrying guns are those people who aren't responsible. It's not that I think it's wrong to carry a gun, or that most people aren't responsible enough to use them properly, it's that it scares me to think of the asshole out there who carries a gun because he/she wants to intimidate other people and who won't hesitate to pull it out if they get angry. Does that mean people shouldn't be allowed to carry? No. Not on a college campus? Yeah, probably. Why? Because there are a lot of dumb, hot headed, college kids out there.
 

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bent20 said:
Yes. Having a gun doesn't mean someone is trained to deal with the situation. They likely will fill face lighter charges, but they're still looking at a possible homicide conviction and years in prison.

I think my biggest concern about people carrying guns are those people who aren't responsible. It's not that I think it's wrong to carry a gun, or that most people aren't responsible enough to use them properly, it's that it scares me to think of the asshole out there who carries a gun because he/she wants to intimidate other people and who won't hesitate to pull it out if they get angry. Does that mean people shouldn't be allowed to carry? No. Not on a college campus? Yeah, probably. Why? Because there are a lot of dumb, hot headed, college kids out there.
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Heck, one can find those hot headed dumb people everywhere so by your way of thinking that means nobody should carry anywhere. I carry mine all of the time, except the four places not allowed by Indiana law for I do not want to be a sitting duck.
 
bent20 said:
Yes. Having a gun doesn't mean someone is trained to deal with the situation. They likely will fill face lighter charges, but they're still looking at a possible homicide conviction and years in prison.

I think my biggest concern about people carrying guns are those people who aren't responsible. It's not that I think it's wrong to carry a gun, or that most people aren't responsible enough to use them properly, it's that it scares me to think of the asshole out there who carries a gun because he/she wants to intimidate other people and who won't hesitate to pull it out if they get angry. Does that mean people shouldn't be allowed to carry? No. Not on a college campus? Yeah, probably. Why? Because there are a lot of dumb, hot headed, college kids out there.
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I believe in our right to carry. But you are right. There are a lot of dumb or crazy people out there. However, you rarely hear of a concealed carry permit holder pulling a gun and shooting an innocent person. Most of the shootings are committed by illegal gun owners.

And remember, we let crazy people drive tons of steel at 70 mph.

My major concern if I had a son or daughter on campus is that mass murders nearly always occur in gun-free zones.
 
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