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I knew we'd choke again. Always do with this coach. Down to the 12 on 1st down and end up backwards at the 25. I think this is Mallory's 10th loss in a row in games decided by a possession or less.
 
Don’t care how nice of a guy Mallory is, he just finds ways to lose. That was really our last good chance to win a game. Doesn’t take money to make adjustments in a timely manner before your in a hole you can’t dig out. Sorry.
 
Bobbyk60 said:
Don’t care how nice of a guy Mallory is, he just finds ways to lose. That was really our last good chance to win a game. Doesn’t take money to make adjustments in a timely manner before your in a hole you can’t dig out. Sorry.
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We might win next week. Murray State is down 59-0 at home against South Dakota halfway through the 4th Q. It will definitely be the battle for 10th place in the conference. If Murray State had the option to stay in the OVC for football only then they should have.
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
If they are under contract, then I'm sure it's on a year by year basis. Nothing would stop Mallory from hiring someone else (for any assistant slot) this upcoming off-season.
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Purdue fired OC last week and has to pay him rest of this year salary and next year. Almost $2M.
 

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bigsportsfan said:
Purdue fired OC last week and has to pay him rest of this year salary and next year. Almost $2M.
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I find that laughable especially when they were picked dead last. Seems to me their DC should get the ax as well. Wisconsin rolled them today.
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
Oh, I completely agree with you. That's why I stated on post #9 that I don't think Bath is entirely the problem. I think he's running the exact offense his boss wants him to run. The only way out offense will improve is if Mallory hires someone that knows what they're doing and he stays completely out of the offense, because his offensive mindset of trying to run the ball right up the middle 85% of the time just doesn't work here.

If Mallory wants to run run run then we need to install an offense similar to the academies, since it doesn't require linemen that are as good, because we aren't ever going to get good enough linemen to successfully run the "Michigan offense". We'd also have the advantage of being hard to prepare for since very few teams run that style of offense these days. It doesn't take much to figure out this current offense.

Will anything change today, this season, next season, or ever under Mallory? I seriously doubt it. Mallory is borderline insane thinking that one day this offense will somehow break through and give us what we need to have a winning season and make the playoffs. It's clear to me that he has no idea what he's doing and is on the Lansing plan of taking ISU's money and praying for a miracle. I want Mallory to turn things around and be successful, but I'm not sure Mallory has that same desire. Winning coaches will try anything to win, and loser coaches will be content to keep running the same old failed playbook over and over again.
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Hi all. Former player here (‘09-12). I have to admit, this is the most frustrated I’ve been with the program in quite some time. I think it’s becoming clearer to those connected to the program (and from afar) that change is needed - whatever form that may take.
 
How in the world does an offensive coordinator keep a job with a 4-23 record? We had a 5-win season in 2021, and since then, it’s been downhill. Sixteen total yards of offense in today’s first half? It’s not our players. You can’t win games if you can’t score, and averaging 15 points or less since 2022 isn’t cutting it. It’s time to admit this isn’t working and make some type of change.
 

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dpainter20 said:
Hi all. Former player here (‘09-12). I have to admit, this is the most frustrated I’ve been with the program in quite some time. I think it’s becoming clearer to those connected to the program (and from afar) that change is needed - whatever form that may take.
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His play calling on certain situational downs is just not going to work. He had a Third and Six with 6 guys in the box running off the tackle? No chance to even get 2 yards let alone 6.
 
dpainter20 said:
Hi all. Former player here (‘09-12). I have to admit, this is the most frustrated I’ve been with the program in quite some time. I think it’s becoming clearer to those connected to the program (and from afar) that change is needed - whatever form that may take.
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Welcome to the forum! Would love to get some insight from a former player, genuinely curious to hear your perspective on the football program and maybe what some of your former teammates are thinking of it all.

Being in that 30-40 year old age group and former athlete puts you in a unique position because there was success at ISU when you were there, we were moving forward, but now the landscape has completely changed in college sports, NIL, transfer portal, etc. And I truly believe that you guys are in a great position to be able to see what was college athletics but also the knowledge to understand what its turned into and where it's going.

I guess my questions is what are your and your former teammates thoughts on the current state of the football program? Do we just get new coaches? Go non-scholly? Shutter the program? What about Memorial Stadium? We have to address that at some point. Really just intrigued to hear your perspective and your former teammates on the state of the football program and where some people stand with it
 
Park57 said:
How in the world does an offensive coordinator keep a job with a 4-23 record? We had a 5-win season in 2021, and since then, it’s been downhill. Sixteen total yards of offense in today’s first half? It’s not our players. You can’t win games if you can’t score, and averaging 15 points or less since 2022 isn’t cutting it. It’s time to admit this isn’t working and make some type of change.
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It's all in the head coach's philosophy. Mallory has insisted on employing an extremely conservative offense since he got here. Getting another new OC won't change anything as long as Mallory is the coach.
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
Oh, I completely agree with you. That's why I stated on post #9 that I don't think Bath is entirely the problem. I think he's running the exact offense his boss wants him to run. The only way out offense will improve is if Mallory hires someone that knows what they're doing and he stays completely out of the offense, because his offensive mindset of trying to run the ball right up the middle 85% of the time just doesn't work here.

If Mallory wants to run run run then we need to install an offense similar to the academies, since it doesn't require linemen that are as good, because we aren't ever going to get good enough linemen to successfully run the "Michigan offense". We'd also have the advantage of being hard to prepare for since very few teams run that style of offense these days. It doesn't take much to figure out this current offense.

Will anything change today, this season, next season, or ever under Mallory? I seriously doubt it. Mallory is borderline insane thinking that one day this offense will somehow break through and give us what we need to have a winning season and make the playoffs. It's clear to me that he has no idea what he's doing and is on the Lansing plan of taking ISU's money and praying for a miracle. I want Mallory to turn things around and be successful, but I'm not sure Mallory has that same desire. Winning coaches will try anything to win, and loser coaches will be content to keep running the same old failed playbook over and over again.
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Lansing won consistently, beat ranked teams, beat em at home & on the road, on National TV and led the Trees to some post-season berths

Mallory DREAMS of the success Lansing achieved
 
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