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2023-24 Around The Valley
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Earning our keep in the MVC
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I'll take the blame. But seriously if schools like MOSU, ILST, and Belmont leave who is the MVC going to add that's any better? More Horizon League schools? UIC and Valpo are both cellar dwellers at 11th and 12th right now. The choices are very slim, so hopefully everyone stays or else this conference will continue to decline even further into irrelevancy. The positive is that we may win it more often though.
Two things.
First, as you point out in your response, no one is better “right now”. Loyola wasn’t an exciting choice when they were added but were a huge asset by the time they left.
Second, it’s not like Illinois State and Missouri State are setting the world on fire. Neither are good at any of the biggest sports (football, basketball and baseball (bears are solid at baseball but not spectacular)).
This is all a moot point until any movements are made, but IF either or both leave, my vote (for what it is worth) would be Northern Kentucky (nice arena, bigger market) and Wright State (nice arena, solid basketball and baseball programs). Close enough to be travel partners.
From your CONSTANT comments about football. Remember Mr. Haute guy, football season brings in Alums (like me) from different parts of our places. 7,000 plus fans, booking up hotel rooms. Haute restaurants employing packed ( especially Homecoming) employees is GOOD for Terre Haute. DO NOT EVER see 7,000 plus at ANY track and field meet like football games.
I donate to ISU because of our HC PERIOD!
What does all the Men’s and Women’s track and field cost us? Huh? Scholarships, coaches salaries, travel expenses, meals??
Revenues? NONE!!
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why is track and field getting brought into this? Do people not know that there are requirements to stay D1? You NEED sports like soccer, track and field, gymnastics, volleyball, lacrosse, etc. to stay D1. None of those sports are ever going to "move the needle" but they are necessary for an athletic department. All things considered our TF & Cross programs do A LOT for the community and university at a pretty low cost.
My gripe with football at this point is why are we spending near the top of the MVFC just to get our results, we can cut spending by 2 mil and still get our 1 win a year. People literally would not be able to tell the difference in on-field-products whether we spend 4.5m or 2m. We spend more football than Northern Iowa, they are a freaking football school and we spend more than them, that's insane. having an extra 2 mil in our basketball budget, 300k towards baseball and the other 200k going towards other sports would go a long way with those programs and helping us stay the VERY relevant we currently are.
My gripe with football at this point is why are we spending near the top of the MVFC just to get our results, we can cut spending by 2 mil and still get our 1 win a year. People literally would not be able to tell the difference in on-field-products whether we spend 4.5m or 2m. We spend more football than Northern Iowa, they are a freaking football school and we spend more than them, that's insane. having an extra 2 mil in our basketball budget, 300k towards baseball and the other 200k going towards other sports would go a long way with those programs and helping us stay the VERY relevant we currently are.
Can we bring this back to MVC bball? 2nd to last game of reg season. In addition, we have the chance to clinch our first reg season championship in 20+ years tonight
Go yell in a mirror about ISU FB
Go yell in a mirror about ISU FB
Because the fact that Jason, and SSOM wants to put “All Available Dollars” into basketball. SSOM rags on football because we suck. We do. But, giving up football will kill alumni support that comes back for HC.
Jason says, “All Available Financial money” goes toward Men’s Basketball, ( directing his comments at football) then, fine. Let’s give up everything to? Just stupid. I’m done.
Guess what genius? And let me say I’m a Track and Field fan. In High School, I pole vaulted, and ran The 220.
But this nonsense of (Jason’s term) Albatross, Albatross is just nonsense. Our Alumni group give 8k at HM. Let’s see what they raise at no Homecoming because of the Albatross?
In my view the athletic budget comparisons of "we spend $X and they spend $X" are misleading. Who really knows what ISU and other schools are including as expenses. The only accurate comparison when looking at programs would be "we spend $X on a coach and they spend $X on a coach".
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I think you're undervaluing the men's hockey program in Amherst... a true shame the MAC isn't sanctioning hockey for the Minutepersons
If we're still allowed to talk basketball, I'd like to see Murray and MO State pull off wosn tonight, that would almost lock in Murray on the other side of the bracket. They're not a team I'd like us to have to play in back-to-back weeks
even more and I'm not even mentioning the TRUCKLOADS of potatoes each school receives in lieu of a cash payment
I think you MEANT to say the schools ARE smart enough to avoid wasting money on football...
Likely as big a crowd as the perennial .419 overall, .357 conf football team draws.
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The Google-Gonkulator tells me the NCAA allows 12.6 scholies across Cross Country and Track & Field (Indoor & Outdoor)
Is that true? Only 12.6?
Exactly!! SSOM will go on and on how football is holding back our basketball success, but totally endorsing Track and Field because of the cost. Can someone do a cost of all the scholarships that track and field cost ISU. Coaches expense, travel ect… I will never apologize to you SSOM. With your big mouth, you have it coming!Earning our keep in the MVC
when's the last time the football team won a MVC title?Earning our keep in the MVC
the LAST ISU home football game that brought in 7,000+ was Homecoming 2019...
and how many of those 7,000+ (7,243) were from OUTSIDE the Wabash Valley or Indianapolis...