Bob Knight's Thoughts

[sycamorebacker]

If nothing else this whole thread (and the hundreds of others on the web) demonstrates why Kapernick chose to do it in the first place. I can't think of anything else he could have done that would have drawn more attention for his cause. Several weeks later and it's still being talked about.

Personally, I don't get the attention. It's not like he interrupted the national anthem, yelled or did something outlandish to draw attention to himself. He sat. He didn't bother anyone with it, just sat. Still can't believe it is being talked about a month later.

I think it's a perfect example of the double standard of liberals. He has the right to sit. Bakers do not have the right to refuse to cater a KKK meeting. The NCAA has the right to pull events out of NC because 2 restrooms are not enough for men and women.
The liberals believe in freedom of speech as long as they agree with you.

 

[Bluethunder]

I think it's a perfect example of the double standard of liberals. He has the right to sit. Bakers do not have the right to refuse to cater a KKK meeting. The NCAA has the right to pull events out of NC because 2 restrooms are not enough for men and women.
The liberals believe in freedom of speech as long as they agree with you.

Poor examples.

Let's be real, the caterer issue has nothing to do with a KKK meeting, it's gay marriage. The NCAA is a business as much as anything and is making a business decision, no different than the NBA choosing to move the all star game.

 

[sycamorebacker]

Poor examples.

Let's be real, the caterer issue has nothing to do with a KKK meeting, it's gay marriage. The NCAA is a business as much as anything and is making a business decision, no different than the NBA choosing to move the all star game.

The protests were that a baker MUST serve EVERYONE regardless of what the occasion was and had NO RIGHT to turn someone down due to religious reasons or beliefs. Regarding the 2nd -- you're right, a business decision that is based on restrooms???? If you think that is part of a "business" decision, I have some beach property in Arizona to sell you.

 

[Bluethunder]

Wrong on the first. The protests were that a baker MUST serve EVERYONE regardless of what the occasion was and had NO RIGHT to turn someone down due to religious reasons or beliefs. Regarding the 2nd -- you're right, a business decision that is based on restrooms???? If you think that is part of a "business" decision, I have some beach property in Arizona to sell you.

The caterer issue was vaquely about religion, that was just how they wanted to frame the issue. It was their excuse not to serve gay couples. I'm sure resturaunts and businesses in the 50s down south probably had all kinds of "reasons" not to serve blacks too.

Too put it another way, I would bet that the VAST majority of the businesses that refused to serve gay couples would have been more than happy to take my money if I went in and said I was marrying my mistress who i cheated on my wife with who I now wanted to leave to marry the mistress, provided that the mistress was a female.

To your last point, yes, it is a business decision. The NBA doesn't spend a lot of time worrying about bathrooms, but they do worry about their bottom line. The NCAA too. every decision is made on how it impacts the bottom line.

At any point, it's not a topic I am all that interested in so I doubt I will comment further. Everyone has their opinion and a way they look at it.

Anyway, back to my original point, Kapernick couldn't have chosen a better way to get attention. Maybe he will go into PR or advertising when his career ends.

 

[Jason Svoboda]

If nothing else this whole thread (and the hundreds of others on the web) demonstrates why Kapernick chose to do it in the first place. I can't think of anything else he could have done that would have drawn more attention for his cause. Several weeks later and it's still being talked about.

Personally, I don't get the attention. It's not like he interrupted the national anthem, yelled or did something outlandish to draw attention to himself. He sat. He didn't bother anyone with it, just sat. Still can't believe it is being talked about a month later.

Exactly what I've been saying. Furthermore, maybe if people stopped ignoring the issue, he and other athletes wouldn't have had to resort to using their profession as a political platform. They (protesters) lashed out in violence and people were up in arms telling them they should protest but in a peaceful manner. So many prominent pro athletes, seeing the same things continue, did just that.

Some police shootings are unquestionable 100% justified. However, if you research quite a few of the most recent occurrences, cops are firing first and asking questions later. If that is how you handle stress within your profession, you're in the wrong profession. Maybe if the fantastic cops out there (and there are thousands upon thousands of them) would step across the blue line and weed out those they know that don't belong in the field, there would be some progress and then everyone can go back to enjoying the national anthem, people can live another day, or something like that.

 

[Coach]

TWO restrooms have been enough since Colonial Days.........thinking the Indians only had ONE.
It is so very simple it is a stupid issue.
If you stand to pee you use the MEN's room.
If you squat to pee you use the WOMEN's room.
If you look like a man and enter the ladies room.......beware as a lot of those sweet young things "carry" now.
And finally.....if you stand next to me at a urinal wearing a dress you will not like your experience.

 

[sycamorebacker]

Anyway, back to my original point, Kapernick couldn't have chosen a better way to get attention. Maybe he will go into PR or advertising when his career ends.

And I hope his career ends very soon.

 

[sycamorebacker]

Exactly what I've been saying. Furthermore, maybe if people stopped ignoring the issue, he and other athletes wouldn't have had to resort to using their profession as a political platform. They (protesters) lashed out in violence and people were up in arms telling them they should protest but in a peaceful manner. So many prominent pro athletes, seeing the same things continue, did just that.

Some police shootings are unquestionable 100% justified. However, if you research quite a few of the most recent occurrences, cops are firing first and asking questions later. If that is how you handle stress within your profession, you're in the wrong profession. Maybe if the fantastic cops out there (and there are thousands upon thousands of them) would step across the blue line and weed out those they know that don't belong in the field, there would be some progress and then everyone can go back to enjoying the national anthem, people can live another day, or something like that.

I don't think we have a real problem. The media puts all of the Black shootings in the headlines. Cops shoot more whites than Blacks, but you don't hear much about them. I have faith that all shootings are investigated and cops that are wrong are punished. With so many cops getting shot, it's not hard to understand why they are nervous and may respond too quickly with deadly force. Nearly ALL of the shootings are of people that are NOT complying to police orders. In my opinion, if you do not comply with a policeman's orders, you have no rights.

And these guys that are protesting, for the most part, or much more racist than cops.

 

[4Q_iu]

TWO restrooms have been enough since Colonial Days.........thinking the Indians only had ONE.
It is so very simple it is a stupid issue.
If you stand to pee you use the MEN's room.
If you squat to pee you use the WOMEN's room.
If you look like a man and enter the ladies room.......beware as a lot of those sweet young things "carry" now.
And finally.....if you stand next to me at a urinal wearing a dress you will not like your experience.

You're right and you're wrong.

Yes, there were two restrooms for most Colonists... the privy and the chamber pot AND I doubt EITHER were marked Pointers and Setters, Pirate and Mermaid, Musketeer and Wench

Remember the North Carolina law stipulated, gender on birth certificate, NOT at birth. North Carolina will re-issue a birth certificate, post "transition"

 

[4Q_iu]

It's being taught in our universities even as we speak.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/06/revisionist-history-of-911-being-taught-to-our-college-students/

It's nothing new; Revisionist History has long been taught in our schools and colleges. (See most of the post-Civil War teachings on why the South took up arms against the Nation.)

It's not right but it's not new.

Terrorists have LONG blamed others for their actions and NOT just Islamic Terrorists but the Narco-Terrorists in South America, those Ultra-Right Wing Whack Jobs in the Northwest; all of the Commie-based Terrorists in Europe during the 1960s & 1970s

 

[sycamorebacker]

Remember the North Carolina law stipulated, gender on birth certificate, NOT at birth. North Carolina will re-issue a birth certificate, post "transition"

And it seems to me, that would be reasonable to everybody. But a lot of the liberal nut jobs went crazy over it.

 

[4Q_iu]

And it seems to me, that would be reasonable to everybody. But a lot of the liberal nut jobs went crazy over it.

Possible -- that was CERTAINLY the media's portrayal of the issue.

I firmly believe the current trans-gender "issue" is a heckuva lot of thrash over a niche "issue"

the numbers of trans- among us are pretty damn small, so small that, the attention it has, consumes is mind-boggling (at best)

What's truly, TRULY sad -- those that believe trans- homosexuals are more 'advanced' than heterosexuals... and there are definitely those that believe that 'assessment.'