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Coulda sworn I saw Lansing look at the offical after the Smith dunk which was just after the Cummings dunk and he looked right at the ref and say, "call the travel" and he did! They took away the dunk.

For the record I didn't see a travel.

Anyone else see this?
 

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Lansing told ref that he wanted a new team in the game. The substitution signal looks like the travel signal. BTW - don't think coach was too happy with that dunk.
 
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justafan said:
Lansing told ref that he wanted a new team in the game. The substitution signal looks like the travel signal. BTW - don't think coach was too happy with that dunk.
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K so they didn't call a travel it was just the "rolling timeout" signal.

That was another thought I had
- thanks for your input! It actually appeared that the timeout still happened though??

I really like my story better - makes for a Barry Henson type story!!
 
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I saw the "travel signal" made by the official @ 1/2 court after the dunk & TO...didn't see an actual "travel" by Smith and the 2 points stayed on the scoreboard. Helluva baseball pass by Gant on that play! Since we get our fair share of DEFENSIVE rebounds, would be nice to see our GUARDS breaking f/c & full speed more often to utilize such TRANSITION opportunity(s), instead of a lethargic "walk the ball" upcourt.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

All these extra timeouts are DESTROYING college basketball...I'm not paying to watch 99% of this extra bullshit put on to sell advertising. It's artificially DESTROYING game continuity and team rhythm, two vital elements that bond game enthusiasm by both players & fans. It's not just ISU's quality of play that been a "downer," but the accompanying bullshit that adds to this dyslexic atmosphere. Gotta be tough on players, to be in a "groove" and then a 5 min TV timeout destroys the touch.

People actually think TV telecasts help the program? So much for "program building." There might be an evolutionary point where TV can accentuate a program, but ISU is NOT there yet. The current cost/benefit of local TV broadcasts is NEGLIGIBLE considering the empty seats and perverted game atmosphere it helps create. Right NOW, TV is taking points off the ISU scoreboard and dampening the spirit of basketball @ Hulman Center. Given the weather conditions in TH yesterday, this is the LAST thing that fans looked forward to inside HC.
 
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On the money Bank.One point in the game we called timeout and then 20 seconds later the under whatever automatic timeout followed.Drives me crazy when that happens.They only play 4 minutes without the automatic timeout.I realize this is for TV but it does slow the game down a lot.

As for televising the home games,I suppose a certain number of fans aren't coming whether it's on TV or not,but the maybe 3500 who actually attended yesterday out of 5960 announced may have been larger if not for TV.I would rather someone sponsor picking up the away game feeds when possible.With satellite technology nowdays it shouldn't be difficult.Until you can't get a ticket I don't care if the majority of home games aren't televised.
 

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hans1950 said:
On the money Bank.One point in the game we called timeout and then 20 seconds later the under whatever automatic timeout followed.Drives me crazy when that happens.They only play 4 minutes without the automatic timeout.I realize this is for TV but it does slow the game down a lot.

As for televising the home games,I suppose a certain number of fans aren't coming whether it's on TV or not,but the maybe 3500 who actually attended yesterday out of 5960 announced may have been larger if not for TV.I would rather someone sponsor picking up the away game feeds when possible.With satellite technology nowdays it shouldn't be difficult.Until you can't get a ticket I don't care if the majority of home games aren't televised.
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You know, "back in the dayz" before you had the Let's Make a Deal, Tic Tac Toe and Oversized ISU Jersey-type diversions during a break in action, fans would be conversing to each other ABOUT the game, maintaining a degree of mental acuity and game focus. Today @ HC, fan mentality is redirected AWAY from basketball...hammering another wedge into the side of a damaged Sycamore and one-time thing called home court advantage. Simply a case of non-basketball people manipulating a high visibility local "tool" to gain economic advantage...and at what cost? You figure...
 
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You know, "back in the dayz" before you had the Let's Make a Deal, Tic Tac Toe and Oversized ISU Jersey-type diversions during a break in action, fans would be conversing to each other ABOUT the game, maintaining a degree of mental acuity and game focus. Today @ HC, fan mentality is redirected AWAY from basketball...hammering another wedge into the side of a damaged Sycamore and one-time thing called home court advantage. Simply a case of non-basketball people manipulating a high visibility local "tool" to gain economic advantage...and at what cost? You figure...
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Yep between the "various "dog and pony shows"--extra tv/media timeouts/marketing ploys etc----there is suppose to be a friggin basketball game---or at least segments of what use to be a game of basketball!:disturbed:
 
hans1950 said:
On the money Bank.One point in the game we called timeout and then 20 seconds later the under whatever automatic timeout followed.Drives me crazy when that happens.They only play 4 minutes without the automatic timeout.I realize this is for TV but it does slow the game down a lot.

As for televising the home games,I suppose a certain number of fans aren't coming whether it's on TV or not,but the maybe 3500 who actually attended yesterday out of 5960 announced may have been larger if not for TV.I would rather someone sponsor picking up the away game feeds when possible.With satellite technology nowdays it shouldn't be difficult.Until you can't get a ticket I don't care if the majority of home games aren't televised.
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Living here in town it does seem silly to televise the game, but don't forget that the broadcast area is beyond that "comfortable" drive into Terre Haute to see the game live. I suspect there are several ISU fans who just can't physically make it to the games every time who are cheering the team on from their living rooms. From WTWO website..."WTWO serves approximately 367,000 people in the TERRE HAUTE DMA consisting of 15 counties in Indiana and Illinois."
 
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Living here in town it does seem silly to televise the game, but don't forget that the broadcast area is beyond that "comfortable" drive into Terre Haute to see the game live. I suspect there are several ISU fans who just can't physically make it to the games every time who are cheering the team on from their living rooms. From WTWO website..."WTWO serves approximately 367,000 people in the TERRE HAUTE DMA consisting of 15 counties in Indiana and Illinois."
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"Charity begins @ home"...there's always SicVision, radio & next-day newspaper at the very least, for the "fans" exposed to the discomfort of a 30 min drive to TH by horse & buggy. Perhaps ISU could also arrange for bus shuttle services from Marshall/Casey, Farmersburg, Riley, Carbon and Atherton to help facilitate the massive influx of fans from outside the TH viewing area? Wouldn't that be a boom for the local mass transit industry...

I can see televising HOME SELLOUTS, and that's about it. If we'd start getting more bodies into HC and generating enthusiasm/revenue, we wouldn't have to have these ancillary bullshit sales promotions at every break in Hulman Center game action which "take away" from the focus of WHY fans are there.

Does anyone know how much WTWO is paying ISU for home television rights?

http://www.gosycamores.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205564229
 
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I could be mistaken, but it seems that when I was a kid they would take timeouts away from teams when they were on tv because of the added tv timouts. I think the total timeouts were higher for tv games but not 4 extra. Now days I guess they just have the regular amount of timeouts plus the 4 extra tv (media) timeouts for every game.
 

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It's not just the timeouts, but the added "fudge time" provided by the Official Scorers Table before action is resumed...it's simply perverting the game in various ways:

1. Taking away any "depth advantage" a squad may have by injecting automatic rest periods;
2. Dissolving the prudent use of TO's by a coach, once considered a strategic aspect of the game;
3. Destroying game continuity and rhythm in team and player performance;
4. Destroying game continuity and rhythm in fan psychological attachment to the game. Too many diversions, and the game is lasting too long. Very similar to the problems of BASEBALL a few years ago BEFORE speedup-based rule changes were implemented by the NFHS.

Case in point IUPUI @ ISU:

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...210274/iupui-jaguars--indiana-state-sycamores

Look at the minutes consumed by the starters of IUPUI as opposed to ISU. Now look @ the bench minutes. Ultimately w/ 5 minutes left in the game, the FATIGUE factor caught up w/ IUPUI. But one has to realistically measure the impact of MEDIA timeouts in allowing IUPUI to stay close for 35 min, given their short bench.

This also raises questions re: the actual VALUE of ISU's going deep in rotation, if the tactic is going to be discounted by the ridiculous abuse of TV timeouts.
 
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sycamore tuff said:
I could be mistaken, but it seems that when I was a kid they would take timeouts away from teams when they were on tv because of the added tv timouts. I think the total timeouts were higher for tv games but not 4 extra. Now days I guess they just have the regular amount of timeouts plus the 4 extra tv (media) timeouts for every game.
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Try 8 extra 4 per half
 
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