for all the gary daily's out there from isu's faculty....

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This was in today's (Thursday, March 18, 2010) Indianapolis Star.....Mr. Daily (who I had for a teacher during my days at ISU) talks about the importance of an athletic program....

Just check out this little nugget....

"New York-based college admissions expert Katherine Cohen listed Butler, UCLA, North Carolina, Kentucky and Rice as schools that college-bound teens should consider attending if they are college basketball fans."

Ms. Cohen is one of the few who understand that a successful college athletic program DOES help with improved admissions. Schools that are successful in sports DO get a bump in admissions (and fund-raising) over schools that either aren't successful or that don't have sports programs at all.

And increased admissions/fund raising help keep college staff (including you Gary) gainfully employed.

So, Gary, take that in your pipe and smoke it.
 

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After reading his comments in the paper for the last several years, I can say with great certainty that Mr. Daily is a narrow minded, self-absorbed POPINJAY!!!

There - take that!!!!
 
TJames said:
This was in today's (Thursday, March 18, 2010) Indianapolis Star.....Mr. Daily (who I had for a teacher during my days at ISU) talks about the importance of an athletic program....

Just check out this little nugget....

"New York-based college admissions expert Katherine Cohen listed Butler, UCLA, North Carolina, Kentucky and Rice as schools that college-bound teens should consider attending if they are college basketball fans."

Ms. Cohen is one of the few who understand that a successful college athletic program DOES help with improved admissions. Schools that are successful in sports DO get a bump in admissions (and fund-raising) over schools that either aren't successful or that don't have sports programs at all.

And increased admissions/fund raising help keep college staff (including you Gary) gainfully employed.

So, Gary, take that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Can you fwd the link? The Star's 'search' capability is crapping out...
 
4q....its only in the printed edition....

i looked online...earlier...for it....its tacked on to the bottom of the butler preview story.....as a note.....
 

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Must be...

a new 'revenue' idea by the Star...

noticed that certain stories are now 'only in the print edition'

Newpapers give away their product and wonder why their revenues are down?!

Think I had Daily for a history class; don't remember him as a gas bag but I would have shrugged it off as I did most prof's opinions on different issues

Know many folks who pick schools because of a 'party reputation' or 'great sports' teams -- definitely part of the 'collegiate experience'...
 
I had Daily for a political science class....

it was more like a Democratic Party introduction class....lol....and don't you dare espouse any conservative/Republican comments.....that is, if you want to make a passable grade....and this was back in the late 1970s.....lol......
 
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it was more like a Democratic Party introduction class....lol....and don't you dare espouse any conservative/Republican comments.....that is, if you want to make a passable grade....and this was back in the late 1970s.....lol......
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Guess it wasn't a class on the US Constitution!

Those 'darn first 10 amendments...'
 

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IndyTreeFan said:
After reading his comments in the paper for the last several years, I can say with great certainty that Mr. Daily is a narrow minded, self-absorbed POPINJAY!!!

There - take that!!!!
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I had Daily for three history classes...two Afro-American Studies and a Women in American History. He's a Rutgers alum, and I enjoyed his style & passion for the subject. I was the only non-black in BOTH Afro-Am classes and the ONLY male in the Women in Am class. Boy did I ruffle their feathers during the '74 Indy 500 Time Trials and anti-Janet Guthrie positioning!:bigsmile:

ITF...Daily's knowledge of the black movement in American history and his studious presentation of said material @ ISU would represent the antithesis of a "popinjay."
 
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There is no question that a strong athletics program will draw students...the same as a strong Greek system, as strong social atmosphere, a nice looking campus, etc. All are pieces to the puzzle.
 
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ITF...Daily's knowledge of the black movement in American history and his studious presentation of said material @ ISU would represent the antithesis of a "popinjay."
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Perhaps, but Daily's rantings in the newspaper (over and over and over again) are the definition of a "popinjay." Maybe he should stick to his courses and stop blathering about topics he obviously knows nothing about?
 
While an ISU professor, Daily was always a strong supporter of ISU Sports and frequently seen at Hulman Center and Memorial Stadium, not to mention his Spring & Summer activity on the former tennis courts south of the ISU Arena & north of Cunningham Library (where the Student Rec Center now sits).

His comments in the Indy Star were likely just a "natural" statement of his patriotism for ISU sports. I doubt if he'd present an "agenda" in such superficiality, given his background.

Daily has been retired from ISU since the late 90's...

Just curious...what topics of "popinjayism" have been reflected on by Daily?
 
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Look, I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Read the man's letters to the editor over the past decade. For someone who owes his lifestyle and retirement to Indiana State University, he's never, ever had a good thing to say about it. He is the problem - always criticize, never praise where ISU is concerned. He is obviously full of his own opinion, even when he speaks on topics of which he knows little, or chooses to ignore hard facts.

I know I can't win against you, so I'm done here...
 

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TJames said:
This was in today's (Thursday, March 18, 2010) Indianapolis Star.....Mr. Daily (who I had for a teacher during my days at ISU) talks about the importance of an athletic program....

Just check out this little nugget....

"New York-based college admissions expert Katherine Cohen listed Butler, UCLA, North Carolina, Kentucky and Rice as schools that college-bound teens should consider attending if they are college basketball fans."

Ms. Cohen is one of the few who understand that a successful college athletic program DOES help with improved admissions. Schools that are successful in sports DO get a bump in admissions (and fund-raising) over schools that either aren't successful or that don't have sports programs at all.

And increased admissions/fund raising help keep college staff (including you Gary) gainfully employed.

So, Gary, take that in your pipe and smoke it.
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If TJames saw this in the Indy Star, I can assure him I didn't submit it. I rarely bother with the Indy Star as it is in the pocket of a sports craze mentality that taxes the poor for the creation of stadium sky boxes for the rich.

As to Ms. Cohen's study (I haven't read it as no reference source was offered), this is old, not significant, news. Ever since Doug Flutie threw his famous Hail Mary pass and BC had a blip on the enrollment screen, desperate ADs and college presidents have used the "free" publicity of sports success as the determining factor in enrollments. This is hogwash.

Try this experiment on your friends and colleagues: Ask, if you have a son or daughter graduating from high school who is intending to attend college, rank the following in order of importance when choosing the school s/he will attend:

--success in sports
--costs
--quality of faculty
--programs offered
--class size

Did Ms. Cohen sort out these variables? I somehow doubt it.
 
Popinjay! As I always say, better a popinjay than an ostrich. But thanks for this. A first on a long list I'm saving.
 
You're right up to a point. Entertainment figures are always saying there is no such thing as bad publicity. Does a university want to live by that rule? And publicity isn't free. What do you get for what you pay for? Finally, are there alternatives to sports publicity that can put a school in the public's eye? Just asking.
 
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