Ok, a top 100 recruit says he will sign with ISU, but only if he can wear number 33…. So you unretire the great one’s Jersey or tell him thanks but no thanks????? Again Hypothetical since there isn’t much else to talk about right now what’s your decision?
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Depending on the player, I'd have no problem letting them wear a retired number.
If I were the head coach, since you mentioned #33, I would reach out and speak to Larry essentially looking for his blessing. I also would explain to the kid that the number is already retired so your legacy would essentially end with wearing it. If they were cool with that, knock yourself out.
Not that we have this problem, but there are a limited number of jersey numbers players can have. For example, you cannot use 6, 7, 8 or 9 or the combinations using those 4 digits. So eventually any school that retires a lot will ultimately have to allow this.
If I were the head coach, since you mentioned #33, I would reach out and speak to Larry essentially looking for his blessing. I also would explain to the kid that the number is already retired so your legacy would essentially end with wearing it. If they were cool with that, knock yourself out.
Not that we have this problem, but there are a limited number of jersey numbers players can have. For example, you cannot use 6, 7, 8 or 9 or the combinations using those 4 digits. So eventually any school that retires a lot will ultimately have to allow this.
An easier solution is for the NCAA to pull their head out of their posterior and re-instate the use of 6, 7, 8 and 9. Go back to ~pre-1960 or so and those numbers were used.
Nope. You’re not wearing a retired number no matter whose number it is.
If that’s your stipulation then you’re already focused on the wrong things and not the type of kid I want on my roster. A jersey number doesn’t matter - especially at the collegiate level for an incoming freshman no less. You can argue like the NFL or NBA some of those numbers are tied to a players brand - okay that’s one thing. But this is college basketball the only thing that matters is the name on the front of the jersey not the number on the back.
I’m a hard no - I don’t care if it’s the number one player in the country. If he’s that shallow of a dude - he’s not a dude. Respect the game. The history of the game. The history of the school you’re committed to.
If that’s your stipulation then you’re already focused on the wrong things and not the type of kid I want on my roster. A jersey number doesn’t matter - especially at the collegiate level for an incoming freshman no less. You can argue like the NFL or NBA some of those numbers are tied to a players brand - okay that’s one thing. But this is college basketball the only thing that matters is the name on the front of the jersey not the number on the back.
I’m a hard no - I don’t care if it’s the number one player in the country. If he’s that shallow of a dude - he’s not a dude. Respect the game. The history of the game. The history of the school you’re committed to.
100%. I don't want someone that self-oriented on the roster.
This is true. The whole reason with officials not being able to hand signal those digits is weak.
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Wait what? You can't use those #'s? Why - I've never heard of this.
Yeah, you cannot use 6, 7, 8 or 9 and then any combination like 16-19, 26-29, 36-39, 46-49.
Official Rule is "The following numbers are legal: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 00, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, and 55. Team rosters can include 0 or 00, but not both."
The reasoning is the officially cannot use both hands to signal who the foul is on since 6-9 would take both hands for one digit. It's stupid.
There was a rule proposal to change this year that and allow any jersey number from 0-99 like the NBA but don't know if they considered or voted on it.
Change to legal guarding position recommended for men’s basketball - NCAA.org
The NCAA Men's Basketball Rules Committee on Friday proposed a rules change for the 2023-24 season to the legal guarding position on block/charge scenarios involving
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Correct... and you will see at historically successful basketball schools that several numbers are "retired" in the rafters, yet current players are still able to wear them. If not, there would very few numbers left to wear. Kansas is a prime example. They actually have 3 #25's retired right now at Allen Fieldhouse. So they say they retire jerseys and not numbers. Semantics I guess...
Yeah, I think some schools also have a secondary level so to speak -- like honorary jerseys or something. That's always an option, too.
niklz62
The JSW Level
its dumber than that. You used to signal 10-50 with one hand then signal the 0-5 with the same hand like 3-3. then they changed it to signaling with both hands so you would have 3 and 4 up for 34. there is no reason they cant just use both hands to signal both digits. we arent building rockets here.Yeah, you cannot use 6, 7, 8 or 9 and then any combination like 16-19, 26-29, 36-39, 46-49.
Official Rule is "The following numbers are legal: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 00, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, and 55. Team rosters can include 0 or 00, but not both."
The reasoning is the officially cannot use both hands to signal who the foul is on since 6-9 would take both hands for one digit. It's stupid.
There was a rule proposal to change this year that and allow any jersey number from 0-99 like the NBA but don't know if they considered or voted on it.
Change to legal guarding position recommended for men’s basketball - NCAA.org
The NCAA Men's Basketball Rules Committee on Friday proposed a rules change for the 2023-24 season to the legal guarding position on block/charge scenarios involving
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I think it would be kind of cool to have a #33 on every team, every year. Kind of like a badge of honor bestowed upon ISU's best player, or the appointed team leader/captain. You have to earn #33, and it should mean something special to be allowed to wear that number in a given season.
Springs Valley High did or does have the JV (maybe Varsity as well) wear a #33 patch on their warmups and/or jerseys.
I'm a fan of that approach but NOT pulling a nebraska football and having the Special Team player of the week wear #12 or what ever they do
_LukePMartin
The Blue Level
I believe starting this year, those numbers can be worn.
news.sportslogos.net
NCAA Proposes Rule Change To Allow Basketball Players To Wear Nos. 0-99
The NCAA recently proposed a change to its longstanding rule regarding uniform numbers, which prohibits players from wearing numbers that include 6, 7, 8 or 9.
news.sportslogos.net
Here is what I found really funny about it. The restriction was just on basketball where you're in confined quarters with a limited roster so it is pretty easy for the officials not to have any numeric confusion but football still had the full number setup (obviously had to due to roster size) and officials are often much further away from any official scorekeeper but they seemed to manage just fine with minimal errors. Shit, with basketball most of the time the ref runs to the scorers table to announce it so just how necessary are the damn hand signals? Seems akin to:
Much like many rules/laws, common sense always seems to lose out.
Here is what I found really funny about it. The restriction was just on basketball where you're in confined quarters with a limited roster so it is pretty easy for the officials not to have any numeric confusion but football still had the full number setup (obviously had to due to roster size) and officials are often much further away from any official scorekeeper but they seemed to manage just fine with minimal errors. Shit, with basketball most of the time the ref runs to the scorers table to announce it so just how necessary are the damn hand signals? Seems akin to:
Much like many rules/laws, common sense always seems to lose out.
I'm surprised the refs haven't pushed for lifting the "ban," more than a fair amount want to work for the NBA; for those that reach it, they'll have to use all 9 digits.
the ban never made sense -- time to join the 'modern world'
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roarkemoody
The Blue Level
No one can touch #33. You can wear 6-9 now for numbers. LeBron James Jr. is wearing #6 for USC.