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Everyone thought it would hurt us to add the Dakotas in football and now NDSU has won the national title two years in a row and this year we stood out as the one team to beat them. People obsess too much over who we could add. It really doesn't mean as much as it might seem.
 

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Jason Svoboda said:
Not sure why opponent's home attendance matters to us at all here? We rarely get a large opponent crowd at Hulman Center.
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I'm not sure it matters either way. I feel I could argue both ways on it. Is home attendance an indicator of monetary support for the program? Are they competitive in sports other than basketball? Are they requesting the Valley or is the Valley chasing them? Is a rivalry expected or will it be just another game? How do they add to the image of the MVC? It's not a good image when 2,000 show up for a televised home game. That would however make others with attendance issues look better.
 
Possible Additions to the MVC

Look, I like noodling this stuff, so if you don't really care, I would suggest you ignore my next several posts. Nothing personal, I'm just going to post some statistics on the (seeming) favorites, from our perspectives, to be added to the Valley.

I will post some (relevant?) stats for Murray State, Belmont, Valpo, Loyola, and NDSU. Feel free to discuss, or not, but I found this gave me a better idea of who has a better "program" and who has good teams. Obviously, this won't be all inclusive, so if you have other info you'd like to share, please feel free. I just thought this would be fun to do while I was sitting in my family room watching basketball!

So, (I hope) enjoy!!!
 
Murray State Racers

Season Results:

2012-2013 21-10
2011-2012 31-2 NCAA 2nd Round
2010-2011 23-9 NIT 1st Round
2009-2010 31-5 NCAA 2nd Round
2008-2009 19-12
2007-2008 18-13
2006-2007 16-14
2005-2006 26-7 NCAA 1st Round
2004-2005 20-10
2003-2004 28-6 NCAA 1st Round

Enrollment: 10,800
Public University
Home Court: CFSB Center (8,602)
15 NCAA tournament appearances
17 Varsity teams
 
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Belmont Bruins

Season Results:

2012-2013 26-6 NCAA
2011-2012 27-8 NCAA 1st Round
2010-2011 30-5 NCAA 1st Round
2009-2010 19-12
2008-2009 20-13 CIT 2nd Round
2007-2008 25-9 NCAA 1st Round
2006-2007 23-10 NCAA 1st Round
2005-2006 20-11 NCAA 1st Round
2004-2005 14-16
2003-2004 21-9 NIT 1st Round

Enrollment: 6647
Private University
Home Court: Curb Event Center (5,000)
6 NCAA tournament appearances
15 Varsity teams
 
Loyola Ramblers

Season Results:

2012-2013 15-16
2011-2012 7-23
2010-2011 17-15
2009-2010 15-14
2008-2009 15-18
2007-2008 13-19
2006-2007 21-11
2005-2006 19-11
2004-2005 13-17

Enrollment: 15,068
Private University
Home Court: Gentile Arena (4,486)
1 NCAA National Championship (1963)
13 Varsity Teams
 
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Valpo Crusaders

Season Results:

2012-2013 26-7 NCAA
2011-2012 22-12 NIT 1st Round
2010-2011 23-12 CIT 1st Round
2009-2010 15-17
2008-2009 9-22
2007-2008 22-14 CBI 2nd Round
2006-2007 16-15
2005-2006 17-12
2004-2005 15-16
2003-2004 18-13 NCAA 1st Round

Enrollment: 4.061
Private University
Home Court: Athletics-Recreation Center (5,432)
8 NCAA Tournament Appearances
18 Varsity Teams
 
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North Dakota State Bison

Season Results:

2012-2013 24-9
2011-2012 17-14
2010-2011 16-15
2009-2010 13-18
2008-2009 26-7 NCAA 1st Round
2007-2008 16-13
2006-2007 20-8
2005-2006 16-12
2004-2005 16-12
2003-2004 D-II

Enrollment: 14,443
Public University
Home Court: Bison Sports Arena (new arena planned)
1 NCAA Appearance
14 Varsity Teams
 
how about profiles for Oral Roberts, UW-Milwaukee, & UI-C if you're still bored, they are possibilities too.
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Season Results:

2012-2013 24-9
2011-2012 17-14
2010-2011 16-15
2009-2010 13-18
2008-2009 26-7 NCAA 1st Round
2007-2008 16-13
2006-2007 20-8
2005-2006 16-12
2004-2005 16-12
2003-2004 D-II

Enrollment: 14,443
Public University
Home Court: Bison Sports Arena (new arena planned)
1 NCAA Appearance
14 Varsity Teams
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2009 was our first year it of transition and we made the tournament, next year we return everyone after just getting beat it he Summit championship to SDSU who lose everyone
 

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tjbison said:
2009 was our first year it of transition and we made the tournament, next year we return everyone after just getting beat it he Summit championship to SDSU who lose everyone
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TJ, sdsu will revert to IUPUI status w/o Wolters. He is that entire team, he is their once in a lifetime "Larry Bird". Next year's title game should be Denver (If they truly remain in your league) vs. your team. But as long as your league continues to play their tourney on sdsu's home court they will always have a shot. Thank God the MVC tourneys (men and women) are on neutral courts.
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Season Results:

2012-2013 15-16
2011-2012 (honestly, I couldn't find this...)
2010-2011 17-15
2009-2010 15-14
2008-2009 15-18
2007-2008 13-19
2006-2007 21-11
2005-2006 19-11
2004-2005 13-17

Enrollment: 15,068
Private University
Home Court: Gentile Arena (4,486)
1 NCAA National Championship (1963)
13 Varsity Teams
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2011-12 7-23 (1-17 Horizon)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyola_Ramblers_men's_basketball

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/loyola-il/
 
4Q_iu said:
I'd consider home attendance a sign of how well the program is "succeeding,"....

agree?
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No, not really. At one point it could be when attending sporting events was a priority, but I don't consider it a big factor any more to be quite honest. There are 349 division 1 basketballs teams. As much as we bark about attendence, not sure if anyone knows it, but we're in the Top 100 nationally.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2012/2012+ncaa+mens+basketball+attendance
 
Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

Season Results:

2012-2013 18-13
2011-2012 27-7 NIT 1st Round
2010-2011 19-16 CIT 1st Round
2009-2010 20-13
2008-2009 16-15
2007-2008 24-9 NCAA 1st Round
2006-2007 23-11 NCAA 1st Round
2005-2006 21-12 NCAA 1st Round
2004-2005 25-8 NIT 1st Round
2003-2004 17-11

Enrollment: 3,259
Private University
Home Court: Mabee Center (10,500)
5 NCAA Appearances
16 Varsity Teams
 

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Milwaukee Panthers

Season Results:

2012-2013 8-24
2011-2012 20-13 CBI 1st Round
2010-2011 19-14 NIT 1st Round
2009-2010 20-14
2008-2009 17-14
2007-2008 14-16
2006-2007 9-22
2005-2006 22-9 NCAA 2nd Round
2004-2005 26-6 NCAA Sweet 16
2003-2004 20-11 NIT 2nd Round

Enrollment: 30,502
Public University
Home Court: US Cellular Arena (10,785)
3 NCAA Appearances
15 Varsity Teams
 
Universtiy of Illinois at Chicago Flames

Season Results:

2012-2013 17-15 CIT
2011-2012 8-22
2010-2011 7-24
2009-2010 8-22
2008-2009 16-15
2007-2008 18-15
2006-2007 14-18
2005-2006 16-15
2004-2005 15-14
2003-2004 24-8 NCAA 1st Round

Enrollment: 28,091
Public University
Home Court: UIC Pavilion (6,958)
3 NCAA Appearances
14 Varsity Teams
 
treeman said:
the valley just isn't in position to add 1 single school that will boost the conference. every team that is available has pros and cons, the only way i see the valley "winning" in this situation would be to add 3 schools between oral roberts, valpo, murray, belmont, loyola, or detroit (no particular order). would love to add st. louis or dayton but that just isn't even close to happening. it's a shame that creighton is leaving but it might just open up the door for a certain team from terre haute to step in and become a conference power.
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Even if Creighton doesn't leave we should be looking to add two teams right now. If Creighton leaves, add three. In this day and age of conference realignment, if you're not expanding you are dying.

On another note, I'm not sure why anyone cares about attendance figures for any of these schools. The MVC makes the bulk of it's money on tournament appearances. Our only goal should be to add high-calibur mid-major teams with a track record of success.
 
Wow, so now it appears CU is STAYING one more season! ha!

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/coll...on_xavier_to_join_next_HWBR8nzwcf0a0rZSxkf8IM

so that begs the question, do we still add 1-2-3 teams, KNOWING they are gone in 2014????

the A-10 will lose FIVE teams July 1st, if the MVC dilly dally's around and does NOT add, then the A-10 may add some teams that the MVC is wanting to add. Come on Elgin, get things moving!!
 
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