Loyola-Chicago joining MVC this week (Oakland to Horizon League)

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treeman said:
here is some food for thought. with creighton gone that GREATLY improves our chances to at least win in st. louis year in and year out (looking at the glass half full). but Butler is also going to the big east. with butler losing their mid-major status does this help Indiana State on the recruiting trail or hurt us. will butler be going after high-major recruits and leave mid-major type players for us, evansville, valpo, and ball state to duke it out in the hoosier state? or will butler just suck up every recruit ISU would love to land? thoughts.
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I'm sure Title_BU may peek in on this, but its the former. Butler had already moved on to recruiting nationally. Their 2013 class didn't include a single Hoosier in it. The only Hoosier recruits they appear to be going after in the 2014 class are both national level guys. The last recruiting class that had more than one Hoosier in it was their 2010 class.
 

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from the Drake board, can't put too much stock into this info, but Loyola's coach used to be at ILS

Take this for what it's worth.

Met a kid at the big ten tourney who was wearing a loyola chicago warmup jacket and Iowa ball cap. he sat a row down and we got to talking college hoops.

Said he's on the team there, and was told that Loyola Chicago is working very VERY hard on trying to get into the Valley and it looks pretty promising.

Since I took this with a GINOURMOUS grain of salt, I checked their roster and he looked like a lot like kid on their roster who is from a city in Illinois which is less than 20 miles from Davenport.
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Loyola does off sports that would benefit the MVC also
 
ISUCC said:
from the Drake board, can't put too much stock into this info, but Loyola's coach used to be at ILS



Loyola does off sports that would benefit the MVC also
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Other than being (ignored) in a large TV market, someone explain to me what Loyola offers the MVC. They stink year in and year out. I keep hearing about this "new" commitment to sports, but if history is any guide, they won't do much of anything. Not a fan of this one.
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Other than being (ignored) in a large TV market, someone explain to me what Loyola offers the MVC. They stink year in and year out. I keep hearing about this "new" commitment to sports, but if history is any guide, they won't do much of anything. Not a fan of this one.
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They stank bad enough to beat us by 12 points a few season back. Just saying. :)
 
Question,.........

Who has the largest fan base and (in your opinions) would bring the most fans to Arch Madness if they were accepted into the conference?

Valpo
Belmont
Loyola
Oral Roberts
Someone else with a realistic chance of joining

I would throw out Valpo, but I really dont know if that would be right,....or I can't say how many they would bring.

We know it won't match Creighton, and that should not necessarily be the goal, but how many could each base bring?
 

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Bluethunder said:
Question,.........

Who has the largest fan base and (in your opinions) would bring the most fans to Arch Madness if they were accepted into the conference?

Valpo
Belmont
Loyola
Oral Roberts
Someone else with a realistic chance of joining

I would throw out Valpo, but I really dont know if that would be right,....or I can't say how many they would bring.

We know it won't match Creighton, and that should not necessarily be the goal, but how many could each base bring?
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Loyola can't draw crowds at home--they bring little to Arch Madness. I could go with Valpo.
 
ORU gets my vote. I would also consider a contingency off to Nebraska-Omaha to pick up some of the bandwagon Creighton fans that will be left when the finish 8th for the next decade.
 
I'm going with Valpo too, but that's just because of familiarity.

The knock against Valpo bringing a crowd is, they NEVER brought a crowd to FW when the Association of Mid-Continent Universities, now known as The Summit League played their Conference Tournament in Fort Wayne for three years...2000, 2001 and 2002....and that's with them winning the Championship here two of those years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Summit_League_Men's_Basketball_Tournament

One of the reasons their Conference Tournament moved out of FW was because of overall lack of attendance

Of course that was then, and this is now. IMO, it's time for Valpo to get their big boy pants on move up a League, and join the MVC. Of course there is the Football argument, but hey, it's been kinda working okay the way it is, too.

Also, Valpo joining the MVC makes sense for some natural travel synergies and ups the in-state rivalry ante with us and Evansville.
 
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How about a team that outdrew us in attendance last year (#88 nationally).....and is a perennial good team in their league.....and logistically, isn't that bad of a fit for the Valley.........Murray State....
 
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How about a team that outdrew us in attendance last year (#88 nationally).....and is a perennial good team in their league.....and logistically, isn't that bad of a fit for the Valley.........Murray State....
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I don't think there is any chance of a public school that plays football. Just my 2 cents but I don't see it happening.
 
Per the Wichita paper if we could get Dayton or SLU for BB, I'm all for it. Otherwise SEMO,Murray or Eastern Ill would be the fit. Bringing in a BB only unless they have a national name does nothing for me personally. Also if SDSU has the desire - I would listen to em.

If a big BB name doesn't develope, I have no problem giving E'ville and Drake a Dear John letter. Same with YSU with Football and get the MVC and MVFC consolidated however Wichita gets a pass. Then if any Mac teams will listen......

Just a bunch of freakin IF's


Think about whats left of the Big East and A10 of course if............. to infinity
 
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