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Hey everybody. I thought I would throw this out there. There are some of us that participate in some discussions on www.mvcfans.com. It is a fan forum for all fans of The MVC. The problem with this is, whenever us Indiana State fans post on that website, the other fans from other schools rip into us and pretty much slap our fan hood right in the face. Not really to sure what everybody else has against Indiana State, but I am tired of being pushed around on there. All I am saying is maybe if more of us got on there and posted like we do on here, it could help the matter a little. Don't be nasty or anything, just join in on the discussions guys. We all know we're good at that. Lol.
 

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We're probably either too polite, or too emotional when we get angry. Not saying we can't make a difference, but personally, their lack of respect for our institution is hard to swallow. Bottom line, ALL schools have problems and none are immune from the issues that plague the MVC or any other mid-major conference. With the progress that ISU has made in the past year or two, that respect will eventually return. Until then, I don't want to hear some asshole from Kansas tell me that we're still waiting for Larry Bird to return and that their high school plays better football than ISU does (and so on). Let our accomplishments speak for us and let them continue to whine amongst themselves. Last I heard, we are always competitive in the MVC all-sports trophy but they won't talk about that. Win a football championship or Arch Madness and then we can give them hell. We've still got some work to do before we can do that!
 
I agree. I just think it would be nice to have more than just a few people on their to discuss things. I didn't mean to make it sound like we should get on their and make ourselves look like we don't deserve respect. I meant, just get on their a nd take part. Lobby for our guys as well. Right now, people are kind of ripping on Odum pretty good. It sucks. But, I wouldn't hold it against anyone that doesn't want to get on their and take part. Just a mere suggestion.
 
I probably won't post on that forum ever again - I was very cordial in stating my case for Odum and the reception my way wasn't as welcoming and I really just don't have time for it. I post enough on this forum as it is, why the need to waste my time with people who in my mind know very little about basketball. I am not one to gloat in my knowledge of the game vs. another persons but their unwillingness to even listen to another side of an argument is really just something I'd rather not deal with.


They all have good intentions and I don't have a problem with them - just not worth my time that's all... The Sycamores will make a deep run in the Lou, maybe win the sucker and they will say we got lucky and we don't belong and all the BS in the world. I don't need to hear it, brings to much negative energy into my life. lol I'm all about being positive!
 
I probably won't post on that forum ever again - I was very cordial in stating my case for Odum and the reception my way wasn't as welcoming and I really just don't have time for it. I post enough on this forum as it is, why the need to waste my time with people who in my mind know very little about basketball. I am not one to gloat in my knowledge of the game vs. another persons but their unwillingness to even listen to another side of an argument is really just something I'd rather not deal with.


They all have good intentions and I don't have a problem with them - just not worth my time that's all... The Sycamores will make a deep run in the Lou, maybe win the sucker and they will say we got lucky and we don't belong and all the BS in the world. I don't need to hear it, brings to much negative energy into my life. lol I'm all about being positive!
Did I fall asleep and wake up and miss the controversy? Where did that statement come from. I sure as hell didn't see anything on here that would have required that statement. You're always well-spoken and back up statements with facts so how have I missed something that caused that reaction.

Not too many controversial statements about Odum to begin with because he is frankly the best thing to happen to the TREES in half a decade or so. Like most things that are written here, "over-interpretation" is pretty common and I suspect that someone's statement has brought this on, but I sure didn't read it. I always enjoy reading your summaries because you know what your talking about.

Maybe I missed something but I sure didn't see anything that should cause that reaction. I hope you are just suffering from a lack of sleep. Stay with us my friend. No reason to jump off the ship yet. I enjoy what you preach.~
 
Did I fall asleep and wake up and miss the controversy? Where did that statement come from. I sure as hell didn't see anything on here that would have required that statement. You're always well-spoken and back up statements with facts so how have I missed something that caused that reaction.

Not too many controversial statements about Odum to begin with because he is frankly the best thing to happen to the TREES in half a decade or so. Like most things that are written here, "over-interpretation" is pretty common and I suspect that someone's statement has brought this on, but I sure didn't read it. I always enjoy reading your summaries because you know what your talking about.

Maybe I missed something but I sure didn't see anything that should cause that reaction. I hope you are just suffering from a lack of sleep. Stay with us my friend. No reason to jump off the ship yet. I enjoy what you preach.~

He was talking about mvcfans.com...
 

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Did I fall asleep and wake up and miss the controversy? Where did that statement come from. I sure as hell didn't see anything on here that would have required that statement. You're always well-spoken and back up statements with facts so how have I missed something that caused that reaction.

Not too many controversial statements about Odum to begin with because he is frankly the best thing to happen to the TREES in half a decade or so. Like most things that are written here, "over-interpretation" is pretty common and I suspect that someone's statement has brought this on, but I sure didn't read it. I always enjoy reading your summaries because you know what your talking about.

Maybe I missed something but I sure didn't see anything that should cause that reaction. I hope you are just suffering from a lack of sleep. Stay with us my friend. No reason to jump off the ship yet. I enjoy what you preach.~

He can't get off of here. I enjoy the recaps he posts to much. Lol.

SSOM- I am with you. I am probably going to check it out occasionally, but not anything like this forum. You guys are to much fun to talk with.
 
Did I fall asleep and wake up and miss the controversy? Where did that statement come from. I sure as hell didn't see anything on here that would have required that statement. You're always well-spoken and back up statements with facts so how have I missed something that caused that reaction.

I am going to stop reading your post now - I was talking about posting on the MVCFan forum which is what this thread is about, I think.... Myself and Indiana State wasn't treated with respect and I don't like to be disrespected, thus I wont post on that forum "very often" if ever.

Thanks for the kind words I finished reading your post. Sorry for the misinterpretation, I love this forum and the people on it - always have.
 
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There is just no point in going over to MVCFans. The problem you have with every fan base, including ours, is they think their players are the best so it's like arguing politics and religion -- you're not going to change their minds. That said, why waste your time when you could be posting here?
 
SSOM, that is too funny. I was restless last night and couldn't get to sleep and it looks like I should have gone to bed anyway! Not too sure why I couldn't figure that out. It would seem rather obvious today. Well, anyway, I am glad you are not leaving us at SP.
 
SSOM, that is too funny. I was restless last night and couldn't get to sleep and it looks like I should have gone to bed anyway! Not too sure why I couldn't figure that out. It would seem rather obvious today. Well, anyway, I am glad you are not leaving us at SP.

No worries man lol it's all good!
 

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Personally I could care less about the fans from other teams and what they think of ISU. Especially WSU fans who think they are god's gift to college athletics when they are really just a middle of the road mid-major athletic program.

Why do you keep losing to middle of the road mid-major athletic programs? What's that? 4 or 5 in a row now? Says a lot about your program I guess..
 
How NOT to gain the respect of opposing fans:

Troll other teams' message boards and be a complete ARSE...

You call it trolling because you don't like seeing the blinders taken off, which of course is fine, it's your message board. But everybody here always clamors about Indiana State not getting respect. My link is one of many reasons why. You guys want respect from everybody all the time, yet a lot of you seldom give it back in return. You all get together on the Valley message board during your winning streaks demanding respect, but when the losses started piling up, there wasn't a soul around to give it right back in return.

And if I was trolling, I wouldn't bring an actual discussion point to the board. I would just be posting about how Indiana State sucks, Indiana State fans suck, etc. I'm not doing that. You call it trolling because it makes you feel better. In actuality, you don't like seeing stuff that makes sense but kills your prior arguments.
 

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yeah valley.,....indiana state have lost games to middle of the road teams....

but the sycamores have won 12 games against missouri valley conference squads....what's that all about?????....

and they lost in triple overtime to wee-cheat-um state.....on the road no less.....
 
You call it trolling because you don't like seeing the blinders taken off, which of course is fine, it's your message board. But everybody here always clamors about Indiana State not getting respect. My link is one of many reasons why. You guys want respect from everybody all the time, yet a lot of you seldom give it back in return. You all get together on the Valley message board during your winning streaks demanding respect, but when the losses started piling up, there wasn't a soul around to give it right back in return.

And if I was trolling, I wouldn't bring an actual discussion point to the board. I would just be posting about how Indiana State sucks, Indiana State fans suck, etc. I'm not doing that. You call it trolling because it makes you feel better. In actuality, you don't like seeing stuff that makes sense but kills your prior arguments.

Alright, what exactly about the thread that you linked was so bad? It was a fan that was simply opining that his team plays very hard and he thinks they'll win the tournament. You, and everyone else on that board, do the same thing all the time. As a matter fact, the ISU fan didn't flame anyone, didn't make any inflamatory statements, and never even got into a pissing match with anyone. It was simply an opinion.

The problem with people like you, and the majority of WSU and CU fans is that an opinion is only allowed on an MVC message board if it agrees with yours. Otherwise, it's a sign of disrespect from those fans whose teams should stay in the basement where they belong. It's so blatantly obvious that that is your modus operandi, even a blind man could see it.

YOU are exactly the reason that there aren't many ISU fans on that board. It's merely a place for Shocker, BlueJay and (some) Bear fans to talk. No one else should bother because unless a post extolls the virtues of those three teams, it's not worthy of posting, and gets flamed.

It's a sad state of affairs, too. 10 years ago, ValleyTalk was a great board where everyone could come to discuss Valley basketball. Flaming was kept to a minimum, and while arguments could erupt from time to time, the discussions were usually civil and somewhat intelligent. Then, people like you started frequenting the board, and all civility stopped. Why do you suppose the same 25 people are responsible for 90% of the posts on mvcfans.com?

Frankly, most of us could care less what you and any other MVC fans think of us. We all have our opinions on why things happen they way they do, and we air them here, on our board, away from the rest of the league. We don't care to discuss it with you or your ilk, and we certainly don't care what you think of us.

So, please, crawl back into your hole. I can't believe I've actually wasted five minutes of my time composing this, and I'm sure I'll regret it. After all, in this instance, I keep hearing the old saying in my head - "When you wallow with the pigs, you're going to get dirty." I'm sorry I wallowed with you. I'm going to crawl out of your pen now and clean myself off. And I think I'll just ignore fans from other schools when they come on here.
 
Why do you keep losing to middle of the road mid-major athletic programs? What's that? 4 or 5 in a row now? Says a lot about your program I guess..

I'm waiting on the your facilities suck and your attendance sucks responses.

I'm not debating that we have struggled but middle of the road mid-major athletic program is how I see Wichita. Sorry. Wichita is not Creighton, UNI, or SIU in men's basketball. No football, baseball has been declining, and I really don't care about bowling.

Now WSU fans think they are on par with Kansas and Kansas State when they are miles apart.
 
I'm going to crawl out of your pen now and clean myself off. And I think I'll just ignore fans from other schools when they come on here.

This is the decision that I made a few weeks ago now, but hey very good post! It's a shame it had to come to that, you didn't do anything to bring it on. No worries we will see how things go in the Lou and hey if they don't happen to go well the Sycamores already exceeded expectations this year. Gave us (as fans) an awful lot to be proud of. I'm glad they gave us something relevant to even take over to MVCFans even if they didn't care to hear it. 1 on 10 isn't very fun - but if you can make a respectful post and for the most part I think all Sycamores fans have handled themselves very well on that site.
 
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