Non-conference performance impairing pundit/fan impression?

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Jason Svoboda

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I was thinking about this very question and the now daily threads about how opposing fans and pundits give the Sycamores little chance to perform against, let alone beat the "upper tier" teams in the Valley.

I'm thinking it is. As someone that attended the Kladis Classic up in Chicago to start the season, it really is a "Tale of Two Teams" when you compare that Sycamore squad to how we currently sit. I'm not sure where the light went on, but I have no doubts we'd roll past Eastern Kentucky if we played them again and I think we'd play much different games against Ball State and Wyoming as well.

Anyone else have a take on this?
 

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i think we all have the same take. our line-up has changed and use the younger guys more than early on.
 
I don't think the Sycamores of the early season are even the same team as they are today. The defensive intensity is consistent now, which was not the case early in the season. We utilize our offensive weapons in a different way, as well.

All in all, the rest of the Valley can judge us by our sad performances at BSU and Wyoming, but this isn't that team...seriously...
 
We'd beat those teams like a tom tom. We'd make them wish they had never taken that first breath. We'd make them want to crawl back in the womb. We'd send them home crying, "Mommie, Mommie, those bad boy Sycamores beat me up."
 
I was thinking about this very question and the now daily threads about how opposing fans and pundits give the Sycamores little chance to perform against, let alone beat the "upper tier" teams in the Valley.

I'm thinking it is. As someone that attended the Kladis Classic up in Chicago to start the season, it really is a "Tale of Two Teams" when you compare that Sycamore squad to how we currently sit. I'm not sure where the light went on, but I have no doubts we'd roll past Eastern Kentucky if we played them again and I think we'd play much different games against Ball State and Wyoming as well.

Anyone else have a take on this?

It's a combination of this and starting strong in recent years and imploding. We've cried wolf several times in the last decade so I can understand others in the Valley (as well as some fans) being a bit cautious.
 
I tried to tell you guys it was all about building chemistry and finding some leadership, and I said it would take a little while, at least I think that's what I said, but does anyone ever listen to good old bent20? Noooooooooooo!
 

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I tried to tell you guys it was all about building chemistry and finding some leadership, and I said it would take a little while, at least I think that's what I said, but does anyone ever listen to good old bent20? Noooooooooooo!

It could be that everyone on SP has you on ignore?

Except for me of course, otherwise I would not have seen this post of yours. :sycamores:
 
Let me just say this (because you knew I had an opinion), the Sycamores should not be judged on how they played during the non conference schedule. I understand that it's probably going to happen, but I don't think it's fair.

Jake Odum was not the starting PG until about 4 or 5 games into the season and Lansing didn't really let him start playing until after Wyoming and he clearly said here are the keys Freshman - I am going to win with you and I am going to lose with you. That has made a world of difference. Other fans outside of Tree Nation can't see that.

New Coach - please don't discount the fact that it takes time to get used to a new coach and a totally new system. The sets are different, the personality is different. You pile that on top of playing 80% of you non conference schedule on the road and you have a poor ass start. We shouldn't have been surprised by the up and down play.

Finally it's the break down theory I talked about. You have to break the college basketball season down into 3 seasons and hopefully 4. You got the non conference in which we didn't play very well. You got the conference and that's a whole new season, noting else really matters at that point. Lastly you have the conference tourney and again what happened before that is really meaningless.

It's not fair to judge us on the non conference schedule but that is going to be done by people who clearly know more than I.
 
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