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bent20 said:
Just curious, are there any significant positives coming out of the university right now (aside from baseball and basketball, and sports in general)? To an outside observer paying a little bit of attention, ISU seems to be in its waning years. It's not real surprising since we've never had competent leadership.
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ISU Student receives NASA internship
https://www2.indstate.edu/news/news.php?newsid=5620

$66M funding to improve campus -- specifically the College of Engineering & Technology
https://www2.indstate.edu/news/news.php?newsid=5609

ISU raises $30M of donations for the capitol campaign
https://www2.indstate.edu/news/news.php?newsid=5621
 

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My guess is ISU will be called IUW within the next 20 years. Union Hospital will likely become IU Med. Not sure what will happen with our athletics once that happens, not that it matters, because the big dogs will have separated themselves from everybody else by that point anyways. Not sure I'd support any longer either, because I don't really want anything to do with IU.

Deborah Curtis was an awful hire, probably another feel good, good for the press type of hire. You're all smart enough to figure out why. Next president ISU has will likely be just as, or nearly as bad as her. After all the board is responsible for hires and they gave her an extension recently, so I don't exactly trust anything they decide at this point either.
 
bent20 said:
Just curious, are there any significant positives coming out of the university right now (aside from baseball and basketball, and sports in general)? To an outside observer paying a little bit of attention, ISU seems to be in its waning years. It's not real surprising since we've never had competent leadership.
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Several ISU Alums recognized as influential leaders by Indianapolis Business Journal

On July 20, the Indiana Business Journal released its second annual Indiana 250, a list of the state’s most influential Hoosiers making significant strides in their professions, community, and other critical fields.

The nominees were chosen by IBJ executives, editors, and newsroom staff after a months-long process that included reviewing nominations, researching Indiana organizations, and talking with community leaders across the state.

Indiana State congratulates the following alums on this much-deserved and well-earned accomplishment:

Robert Coons is recognized for his work in not-for-project and education. He graduated from Indiana State in 2000 after receiving a Master of Business Administration. Coons is currently the President of Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.

Dr. Lisa Harris is recognized for her health care and life sciences work. Harris is a member of ISU’s Class of 1979 after graduating with a bachelor’s in Life Science. Dr. Harris is the CEO of Eskenazi Health.

Kent Kramer is recognized for his work in not-for-profit and education. Kramer graduated from the Scott College of Business in 1990 after earning a degree in Management. He is the CEO and President of Goodwill Industries of Central and Southern Indiana and a former ISU alumni board member.

Marsha Stone Wurster is recognized for her manufacturing, logistics, and transportation work. She graduated with a degree in Accounting from the Scott College of Business in 1989. Wurster is the Senior Director of Commercial Enterprise for the Indianapolis Airport Authority.

Paul Thrift is recognized for his real estate, retail, and construction work. Thrift is a 1991 ISU graduate who earned a Political Science degree. He’s served his alma mater on committees, including the Foundation board, COB Dean’s Executive Council, and the Sycamore Athletic Fund. He is the CEO of Thompson Thrift Development Inc
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
My guess is ISU will be called IUW within the next 20 years. Union Hospital will likely become IU Med. Not sure what will happen with our athletics once that happens, not that it matters, because the big dogs will have separated themselves from everybody else by that point anyways. Not sure I'd support any longer either, because I don't really want anything to do with IU.

Deborah Curtis was an awful hire, probably another feel good, good for the press type of hire. You're all smart enough to figure out why. Next president ISU has will likely be just as, or nearly as bad as her. After all the board is responsible for hires and they gave her an extension recently, so I don't exactly trust anything they decide at this point either.
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Welcome to Sycamore Pride Dr. Benjamin -- it's nice you took time from your international art career to post your musings on ISU's future. Were it NOT for your tenure, we'd have been IU-Terre Haute while you were steering onto those rocks...

Thanks and again Welcome! Please Post MORE musings
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
My guess is ISU will be called IUW within the next 20 years. Union Hospital will likely become IU Med. Not sure what will happen with our athletics once that happens, not that it matters, because the big dogs will have separated themselves from everybody else by that point anyways. Not sure I'd support any longer either, because I don't really want anything to do with IU.

Deborah Curtis was an awful hire, probably another feel good, good for the press type of hire. You're all smart enough to figure out why. Next president ISU has will likely be just as, or nearly as bad as her. After all the board is responsible for hires and they gave her an extension recently, so I don't exactly trust anything they decide at this point either.
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This is, sadly, what will happen, and it won’t take 20 years. Higher Ed in Indiana is overbuilt and a septuagenarian who took the presidency just to feed her ego (based on what, um, I have no idea) does nothing but hasten ISU’s demise.
 

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theDebster said:
This is, sadly, what will happen, and it won’t take 20 years. Higher Ed in Indiana is overbuilt and a septuagenarian who took the presidency just to feed her ego (based on what, um, I have no idea) does nothing but hasten ISU’s demise.
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Higher Ed in Indiana has been overbuilt for DECADES; it's not a recent occurrence - it's just gotten exponentially worse.
 
I'd said the IUTH thing tongue in cheek myself, but with how close Bloomington is to Terre Haute, I'm not sure there would be value for them.
 

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This discussion, which I know I have helped fuel, makes me sad. I showed up at ISU in Aug 2019 full of enthusiasm and ready to go all in on ISU. Thought I would love academia and maybe retire there. Soon, it became apparent that the Debster cared nothing about me; cared nothing about the political opposition my position, which she created; had no idea that she might not want to make an enemy out of the person about 15 steps from her office; and had an ego (based on what, I know not) that motivated this septuagenarian to take a job where she would be called "President." I know a lot that I haven't shared, not yet.
 
Hey, theDebster, what do you think about Curtis' refusal to sign off on the contract extension for Josh Schertz? I've heard it is heavily privately funded, and (here's what I think the rub is) would make him the highest paid ISU employee. Think she'll just let it sit there???
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Hey, theDebster, what do you think about Curtis' refusal to sign off on the contract extension for Josh Schertz? I've heard it is heavily privately funded, and (here's what I think the rub is) would make him the highest paid ISU employee. Think she'll just let it sit there???
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Based on what I saw and heard in that office, your hunch is probably correct. My namesake, the Debster, would have a hard time looking at a list of ISU compensation where she isn't at the top. She's more interested in promoting herself than ISU. When Clint Weddle became head of the alumni association, the Debster was incensed that we didn't quote her in the press release. When Advancement did its usual great work securing a big donation, the Debster always stole the credit and had to be at the top of the press release.
 
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