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Sycamorefan96

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Kind of wondering how much longer the mall can survive now that it has lost three of its four major stores within the past year.
 

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Surprised they haven't actively went after some anchor tenants. Whomever is the management company is tone deaf as malls are dying and they should have been aggressive to get retailers that went in elsewhere -- Academy Sports and Best Buy, for example. They should try to get Old Navy to jump over there if they own that strip. They really need to make some sweetheart deals otherwise it will go under or turn into a dirt mall where it is just vape and a bunch of discount mom and pop shops.

Is JC Penney the only big anchor left? You can bet they're going to threaten to close up shop.
 
I walked through Sears prior to the game last Saturday --- I was the only customer in the place …..the only one.
And in the Men's clothing section not one single item I would buy …...or even take if it was offered to me free.
Sad -- I've had people very close to me working at Sears …...got most of my Christmas presents when I was young from their catalog.
Very, very sad.
 
Rural King bought our local crappy mall and are putting their store and some corporate offices in it and keeping the rest open
 
I walked through Sears prior to the game last Saturday --- I was the only customer in the place …..the only one.
And in the Men's clothing section not one single item I would buy …...or even take if it was offered to me free.
Sad -- I've had people very close to me working at Sears …...got most of my Christmas presents when I was young from their catalog.
Very, very sad.

I'd assume they're in liquidation mode.

The one up here in Indy that was at Castleton Square had been on the closure list and quit replenishing shelves. I'd always park on that end since there was never any traffic and always close spaces to the door. Each time I walked through there was less and less merchandise until they were in their final days.
 
Americans really need to wake up a bit with us losing so many large retailers. Once Amazon bankrupts retailers, they no longer have any incentive to offer Prime Shipping and most of the large clothing retailers will have either closed up shop or drastically reduced their infrastructures. Amazon has also started banning folks that make frequent returns -- like lifetime ban with no recourse.

I absolutely can't stand to buy clothes online either because of how different things end up being from their descriptions. Even if two pairs of shorts are listed as 100% polyester, for example, they can have drastically different cuts, feels to the fabric, etc.
 

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Guessing the mall will be demolished within a few years and a big box will go in its place. Also expect a lot of the business on 3rd will dry up and move out around the bypass.
 
It's really kind of sad to see what online shopping is doing to traditional retail. When I was in college, I worked at the mall. At the time, it was one of the largest grossing malls in America, because it had such a large "service area." It was the hub of community life at Christmastime for all of West Central Indiana and East Central Illinois. You went there, not just to shop, but to see people and take part in community events. It's just kind of sad that technology is creating a world in which we will eventually be totally isolated from other people, at least in real terms.

But time marches on...people older than me lament the loss of downtown as the hub of shopping/community life...
 
Americans really need to wake up a bit with us losing so many large retailers. Once Amazon bankrupts retailers, they no longer have any incentive to offer Prime Shipping and most of the large clothing retailers will have either closed up shop or drastically reduced their infrastructures. Amazon has also started banning folks that make frequent returns -- like lifetime ban with no recourse.

I absolutely can't stand to buy clothes online either because of how different things end up being from their descriptions. Even if two pairs of shorts are listed as 100% polyester, for example, they can have drastically different cuts, feels to the fabric, etc.

They said similar things about sears at one point
 
Sears died because of operational mistakes.

They thought the Internet was a fad. By the time they invested in the platform, they were done.

agreed, Amazon will do something at some point that will give way for someone else to take their place...probably like Walmart has
 

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I agree with your buying clothes online dislike. I at least have to know that something will fit first. I like Best Buy where I can go ad match and have it today. Something about me walking around for 2 hours browsing while I know I only came in for a screen protector.
 
agreed, Amazon will do something at some point that will give way for someone else to take their place...probably like Walmart has

Depends on how much farther they're allowed to go. If they go another 5-10 years unchecked, it may be too late... they'll just be the store and retailers will operate through them. Amazon, unlike Sears, diversified into other business lines so they have money coming in from everywhere.

I always thought Amazon would buy out Sears and use those as retail distribution hubs where people could come buy the big sellers or local inventory. Their sweetheart deal with the USPS expires this year so that will be interesting to see what happens. It was rumored they paid between $1.50-2 per package, which is much, much lower than any other bulk shipper.
 
Depends on how much farther they're allowed to go. If they go another 5-10 years unchecked, it may be too late... they'll just be the store and retailers will operate through them. Amazon, unlike Sears, diversified into other business lines so they have money coming in from everywhere.

I always thought Amazon would buy out Sears and use those as retail distribution hubs where people could come buy the big sellers or local inventory. Their sweetheart deal with the USPS expires this year so that will be interesting to see what happens. It was rumored they paid between $1.50-2 per package, which is much, much lower than any other bulk shipper.

In theory they could start their own delivery company. as long as they are providing the best service/price then its fine with me as long as they dont get government help. the problem with the USPS is that they probably need the sweetheart deal or they would be more in the red
 
Depends on how much farther they're allowed to go. If they go another 5-10 years unchecked, it may be too late... they'll just be the store and retailers will operate through them. Amazon, unlike Sears, diversified into other business lines so they have money coming in from everywhere.

I always thought Amazon would buy out Sears and use those as retail distribution hubs where people could come buy the big sellers or local inventory. Their sweetheart deal with the USPS expires this year so that will be interesting to see what happens. It was rumored they paid between $1.50-2 per package, which is much, much lower than any other bulk shipper.

You should pitch that retail distribution hub to Amazon, I like that idea. With everything going the online/shipping route, you got to wonder how much more traffic can our interstates handle. Not to mention that it’s getting harder to find qualified semi drivers. I’ve heard that Ivy Tech May start offering a driving school. Interesting times ahead.
 
Twenty five years ago I said, half seriously, that if I retired and water a part time job I could sell tools at Sears.

Anyone else remember the Sears catalog stores? I can see Amazon bringing that concept back.
 

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In theory they could start their own delivery company. as long as they are providing the best service/price then its fine with me as long as they dont get government help. the problem with the USPS is that they probably need the sweetheart deal or they would be more in the red

Even with that, they (USPS) are too deep in the hole. Those USPS pensions will continue to do them in until they, unfortunately, find a way to get out from under them. I'm not sure the USPS is fixable otherwise.
 
You should pitch that retail distribution hub to Amazon, I like that idea. With everything going the online/shipping route, you got to wonder how much more traffic can our interstates handle. Not to mention that it’s getting harder to find qualified semi drivers. I’ve heard that Ivy Tech May start offering a driving school. Interesting times ahead.

My guess is they probably don't see the need since they already have those massive distribution facilities. They recently opened a "Five Star Store" in NYC (I think) where they had the most popular 5 star rated products in a retail setting. Saw some initial buzz and then nothing else since.

People say we'll eventually go the way of how China operates but I've never been over there. Being a tech geek, I'd love to visit to see what it's all about.
 
Even with that, they (USPS) are too deep in the hole. Those USPS pensions will continue to do them in until they, unfortunately, find a way to get out from under them. I'm not sure the USPS is fixable otherwise.

The pensions aren't the issue with the US Postal Service, it's the Congressional mandate to "PRE-FUND" or front load the pensions and health care for the employees; I s a requirement for all businesses but Congress can only MAKE the USPS do it sh*t Congress doesn't do I for their OWN pensions
 
My guess is they probably don't see the need since they already have those massive distribution facilities. They recently opened a "Five Star Store" in NYC (I think) where they had the most popular 5 star rated products in a retail setting. Saw some initial buzz and then nothing else since.

People say we'll eventually go the way of how China operates but I've never been over there. Being a tech geek, I'd love to visit to see what it's all about.

Not entirely pertinent to the conversation, but the Chinese business model is to steal concepts or tech, reverse engineer, then have it manufactured by workers in 12 hour shifts in factory compounds. The cities where I worked were close to unlivable due to pollution. The Chinese I worked with would beg me to bring baby formula and medicine from here because they didn't trust "Made in China." The internet is closed to anything not government sanctioned, so if you are interested in the free flow of information you'll be disappointed. BTW, anyone with money or power uses a Hong Kong VPN. Sorry for hijacking the discussion...
 
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