Seriously?

[Bally #50]

Be honest. When those Cardinal players were making those unbelievable circus-plays to the hoop consistently in the Duke game today, did any of you honestly say to yourself, "I hope J.O. is watching these because it was a clinic on how to do them." It was blatantly obvious that #13 needs to work on control like their players did. It was a thing of beauty watching them drop in and under control.

 

[Sycamore624]

Be honest. When those Cardinal players were making those unbelievable circus-plays to the hoop consistently in the Duke game today, did any of you honestly say to yourself, "I hope J.O. is watching these because it was a clinic on how to do them." It was blatantly obvious that #13 needs to work on control like their players did. It was a thing of beauty watching them drop in and under control.

I'd be lying if I didn't think the VERY thing while watching today! JO was the first thing that popped in my mind!

 

[sycamorebacker]

I'd be lying if I didn't think the VERY thing while watching today! JO was the first thing that popped in my mind!

Also, 2 things. He needs to become a scoring threat and we need an inside scoring threat so the defense can't cheat on his kickout passes.
I wonder too, when he's looking to pass, are our players moving to create a passing lane.

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

JO aint as quick and athletic as Smith and Siva - not even close. Those guys finish at the rim because they are fast and explosive - they can elevate at the rim. Shades of D. Rose or for the OFC members one Nate Archibalnd. Odum is good at many things but he is not the quickest or most explosive player ever to step foot on a basektball floor. The biggest reason Smith and Siva are able to succeed around the rim is a combonation between speed, agility, leaping ability and body control that is rarely found. You can't just watch guys like that and expect a player to imulate that style of play. Half of those shots are blocked if it's Odum shooting them, not because he is not any good - yet he is not as quick to the rim, the defense has time to react to him. They don't have as much time to react to Smith.

That said - let's hope Cuse beats Michigan, I'd like to see those guys attempt to finish around the rim with an equal speed and athletic ability of Cuse.

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

Also, 2 things. He needs to become a scoring threat and we need an inside scoring threat so the defense can't cheat on his kickout passes.
I wonder too, when he's looking to pass, are our players moving to create a passing lane.

To answer your second question our players do a terrible job of finding the passing lane to create a shot - they get caught standing in one place 80% of the time and the other 20% of time they don't move to the right place.

I might add that Smith and Siva are likely the two best guards in the country - surely on one team. I haven't seen anyone as good as them.

 

[sycamorebacker]

JO aint as quick and athletic as Smith and Siva - not even close. Those guys finish at the rim because they are fast and explosive - they can elevate at the rim. Shades of D. Rose or for the OFC members one Nate Archibalnd. Odum is good at many things but he is not the quickest or most explosive player ever to step foot on a basektball floor. The biggest reason Smith and Siva are able to succeed around the rim is a combonation between speed, agility, leaping ability and body control that is rarely found. You can't just watch guys like that and expect a player to imulate that style of play. Half of those shots are blocked if it's Odum shooting them, not because he is not any good - yet he is not as quick to the rim, the defense has time to react to him. They don't have as much time to react to Smith.

That said - let's hope Cuse beats Michigan, I'd like to see those guys attempt to finish around the rim with an equal speed and athletic ability of Cuse.

If you're saying that Syracuse is the only team that has a chance against UL, you might be right. But I'm rooting for UM.

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

If you're saying that Syracuse is the only team that has a chance against UL, you might be right. But I'm rooting for UM.

I am saying exactly that - however I enjoy watching each of the final teams left. I don't think it's a reach to say these are not the 4 best teams. They've all beatin really good teams to get to this point. Michigan got through Kansas. Louisville through Duke. Cuse through Indiana and Wichita through the Zags and Ohio State - they've all earned a seat at the table.

 

[Gotta Hav]

I'd be lying if I didn't think the VERY thing while watching today! JO was the first thing that popped in my mind!

To quote the Creighton fans from the 2013 MVC Tournament "ONE MORE YEAR!" "ONE MORE YEAR!" "ONE MORE YEAR!"

 

[BankShot]

Also, 2 things. He needs to become a scoring threat and we need an inside scoring threat so the defense can't cheat on his kickout passes.
I wonder too, when he's looking to pass, are our players moving to create a passing lane.

OMG...the 'Backer & I agree on something!

Usually when Odum penetrates, everyone is just standing around & watching, which is generally the reason he doesn't double his assists. But don't the coaches see this?

 

[GoBlueISU]

OMG...the 'Backer & I agree on something!

Usually when Odum penetrates, everyone is just standing around & watching, which is generally the reason he doesn't double his assists. But don't the coaches see this?

Even when he is not penetrating, everyone is just standing around & watching.

 

[sycamorebacker]

Even when he is not penetrating, everyone is just standing around & watching.

You see that in all the teams. There is a certain amount of dribbling that is REQUIRED. I'm always telling the TV, "too much dribbling." You can see it creating stagnation. But then, that is why great execution in basketball is so difficult and the defense is doing all it can to interfere.

 

[rsperge]

remember sharing the ball, and moving it around, goes a lot further than dribbiling the ball, with ISU seems same thing at the end of yr. clock runs down to 25 seconds or so, Odum dribbling with ball top of key, now he drives or penetrates, then someone is forced to take a bad shot, we must be more aggressive, and when the shot is available early in the clock, not be afraid to take it. Team will play more relaxed and will have better shooting percentage.
we also have to get better rebounding, 2nd chance shots.