THN Coach -- DUI

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wthitv.com, reporting that Todd Woefle was arrested Sunday on counts of driving over the legal limit.

Personal feeling is that he should be fired.

Thoughts??
 

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He simply needs to play his "political correctness card" now, thus paving the way to an upper-level administrative move. Tell him to call Supt. Daeschner of the Greater Clark Co. Schools in Jeffersonville for advice. Sunday night, his Charlestown HS Principal was arrested (3 times over the limit post-Casino "celebration"), so Monday & Tuesday he was filming "exclusive interviews" w/ various local TV affiliates apologizing for his "betrayal of public trust," stating also that there MIGHT be a "genetic predisposition" for the problem! What a band-aid...
 
wthitv.com, reporting that Todd Woefle was arrested Sunday on counts of driving over the legal limit.

Personal feeling is that he should be fired.

Thoughts??

Fired from his teaching job or from his coaching job... or both?
I think that is being awful harsh. How many people would be fired from their job for the same thing?
 
I believe he should be fired from coaching. Maybe not teaching but teachers are supposed to set an example.
 
My guess is they will suspend him, I don't think that they will fire him. I don't think he will be allowed to have contact with the team for the first quarter of the season or something like that. I wonder if North doesn't ask Menser to help during the time he is out? That wouldn't surprise me a bit. I'm personally not even sure that AC is helping out with THN, I'm not sure what that story/rumor was all about...

Should he be fired? Hmmmm, interesting question to ask. He's a grown man no doubt and should be held accountable for his actions. Not sure if suspending him for a quarter of the season is considered holding anyone accountable.
 

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Fired from his teaching job or from his coaching job... or both?
I think that is being awful harsh. How many people would be fired from their job for the same thing?

35 DUI arrests in the area over the weekend. One singled out. Hardly fair. Some people get their jollys watching others' mistakes embarrass and hurt them. It's the TMZ-ing of America. Forget all the GREAT things he's done for his students and players over the years and for the years to come. He's supposed to be perfect. That's right.

Forget the parents who do meth in front of or with their kids. Forget the parents who neglect their kids, who have multiple kids with multiple people and live off the government while teaching their kids nothing about being productive members of society. Forget about the youth football coaches who have no accountability, who are drug dealers, dead beat fathers, unemployed horrible role models. And the list goes on.

Yeah, let's destroy the career of someone who's done nothing but good for the youth of this community for the last decade or more, who made a mistake. Good call. No wonder our future as a society is screwed. 15% in poverty now. But we need good teachers, right? Why the hell would anyone go into teaching when the pay is bad, the hours are atrocious, there's zero respect from parents or society, and you're held to a higher standard than anyone. It's ridiculous.
 
Simply put, he should be fired from his position as HS Bball coach. However shouldn't be disiplined through his teaching position.

I just don't want to see it swept under the rug. He is supposed to be a role-model and teacher for young people. What kind of example is this setting.

What kind of punishment would he have for a player whom would be caught drinking, or arrested?

:naughty:
 
Buzzed driving is drunk driving, but wouldn't it be nice to know his blood alcohol level? He made a mistake no doubt, there is also no doubt there should and will be punishment. I do not believe he should be fired though, make him serve a suspension and get Aaron Carter's head coaching career going while the suspension takes place!! lol.
 
The "Holier than thou" are popping up. Give him a good ass chewing, put him on probation with an understanding that if ANY kind of misdeed occurs in the future his tenure at THN is history.
 
Simply put, he should be fired from his position as HS Bball coach. However shouldn't be disiplined through his teaching position.

I just don't want to see it swept under the rug. He is supposed to be a role-model and teacher for young people. What kind of example is this setting.

What kind of punishment would he have for a player whom would be caught drinking, or arrested?

:naughty:

the ihsaa sets penalties for drinking. typically a fourth of the regular season. the same penalty has been imposed for being arrested, pretty sure this is mandated by the ihsaa as well. athletes sign a pledge. penalties escalate with each offense until you are history.

The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.

seems to me a good opportunity for a teaching moment -- both for the coach and his players.
 

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The "Holier than thou" are popping up. Give him a good ass chewing, put him on probation with an understanding that if ANY kind of misdeed occurs in the future his tenure at THN is history.

no we must kill the monster.

actually, let him learn something and let the kids learn something.
 
Good to see some level heads make an appearance. He will be serving a suspension and will have to go through the court system. If anything, he's been treated much worse than anyone else in the same situation. Suspected DUI arrests typically don't make the paper or the lead on the local news. To imply this is or will be brushed under the rug is ridiculous.

He's a great teacher, coach, and person. Support him and let him move on. I'd love to see people rally to support rather than tear down. Sadly, for many, that just won't happen. Such sad lives some must lead. And my disdain for local media continues to grow. I'm so glad I stopped watching local news years ago - and thanks to my television provider - I'll never have to watch it again.
 
the ihsaa sets penalties for drinking. typically a fourth of the regular season. the same penalty has been imposed for being arrested, pretty sure this is mandated by the ihsaa as well. athletes sign a pledge. penalties escalate with each offense until you are history.

The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.

seems to me a good opportunity for a teaching moment -- both for the coach and his players.

The IHSAA imposes no penalties for drinking or breaking the law. Each seperate school sets forth their own guidelines as per punishment for these actions. I agree with the "holier than" statement....if it is a first-time offense, he should be punished but not terminated. Speeding is against the law also. If a coach gets 10 speeding tickets in a year should they be fired?
 
The IHSAA imposes no penalties for drinking or breaking the law. Each seperate school sets forth their own guidelines as per punishment for these actions. I agree with the "holier than" statement....if it is a first-time offense, he should be punished but not terminated. Speeding is against the law also. If a coach gets 10 speeding tickets in a year should they be fired?

And just to be sure it's clear - this IS a first offense. And he's a STELLAR teacher and role model.
 

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35 DUI arrests in the area over the weekend. One singled out. Hardly fair. Some people get their jollys watching others' mistakes embarrass and hurt them. It's the TMZ-ing of America. Forget all the GREAT things he's done for his students and players over the years and for the years to come. He's supposed to be perfect. That's right.

Forget the parents who do meth in front of or with their kids. Forget the parents who neglect their kids, who have multiple kids with multiple people and live off the government while teaching their kids nothing about being productive members of society. Forget about the youth football coaches who have no accountability, who are drug dealers, dead beat fathers, unemployed horrible role models. And the list goes on.

Yeah, let's destroy the career of someone who's done nothing but good for the youth of this community for the last decade or more, who made a mistake. Good call. No wonder our future as a society is screwed. 15% in poverty now. But we need good teachers, right? Why the hell would anyone go into teaching when the pay is bad, the hours are atrocious, there's zero respect from parents or society, and you're held to a higher standard than anyone. It's ridiculous.

You are actually quite right in this regard. However, I still find myself thinking, "What an idiot." But, then again, I think that about anyone arrested for DUI. A truly moronic thing to do...
 
AC

My guess is they will suspend him, I don't think that they will fire him. I don't think he will be allowed to have contact with the team for the first quarter of the season or something like that. I wonder if North doesn't ask Menser to help during the time he is out? That wouldn't surprise me a bit. I'm personally not even sure that AC is helping out with THN, I'm not sure what that story/rumor was all about...

Should he be fired? Hmmmm, interesting question to ask. He's a grown man no doubt and should be held accountable for his actions. Not sure if suspending him for a quarter of the season is considered holding anyone accountable.

AC has been hired as an assistant for THN. He was at my house last Friday and was telling my wife and I all about it.
 
I don't claim to be "holy than thou", and don't have a problem w/ those who like to have a few drinks, hell my brother probably spends more time in the Bally than class, does that make him a bad person, NO, but being responsible is the real issue, not the act of drinking.

However, when a person chooses to drink and gets behind the wheel of an automobile risking no only his/her life, but everyone else on the road... I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM

Take a look at this perspective. Person was .13, driving home, he hits a family of 4, killing 2 of them. Now it's his first offense, so we'll just suspend him for 5-6 games from a basketball season, because he made a mistake.

WRONG!!
 
I don't claim to be "holy than thou", and don't have a problem w/ those who like to have a few drinks, hell my brother probably spends more time in the Bally than class, does that make him a bad person, NO, but being responsible is the real issue, not the act of drinking.

However, when a person chooses to drink and gets behind the wheel of an automobile risking no only his/her life, but everyone else on the road... I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM

Take a look at this perspective. Person was .13, driving home, he hits a family of 4, killing 2 of them. Now it's his first offense, so we'll just suspend him for 5-6 games from a basketball season, because he made a mistake.

WRONG!!

I understand your argument, but your perspective is not reality. If that indeed happens, then there are greater charges brought against the defendent and obviously with greater charges probably comes greater penalties from employers. What if a totally sober basketball coach got ticketed and arrested for driving 150 mph down Wabash Avenue? This is putting everyone else at risk as well....should the coach be fired for that? I'm not condoning drinking and driving at all, but there are a lot of things that people "could" do that could potentially harm a lot of other people.
 
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