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Agreed. If Avila went down, it would definitely be like throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Even Avila himself was only our 4th leading rebounder this year behind Voss, Henry and Neese.

Would be trial by fire for anyone on the roster that wanted to give it a go. But I don't think it would look pretty in long duration increments.
 

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TreeTop said:
That would be a huge jump for Conwell, avg’d 5pts this season as a freshman. Could certainly happen, but I’ll be happy if he just serves as a role player during his sophomore season, avg’ing 7 or 8 points.
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He has about 20 in the first half and made 2 3-ptrs that did not count.
 
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A reason I’m optimistic about next year…

2021-2022, we finish with 11 wins. Then we add a large number of transfers that we really don’t know anything about, including D2’s, and we go on to win 20+ games in 2022-2023.

Now, we’re adding a number of transfer players that we don’t really know much about, other than that they are (at the very least) somewhat proven at the D1 level, plus some touted talent in our recruiting class.

If we can go from 11 wins to 23 wins with “unknowns”, I think we can absolutely build upon that 23 wins with the “proven” (for lack of a better word) talent that we’re adding for next year.

Looking forward to getting ripped apart for this simplistic analysis.
 

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TreeTop said:
A reason I’m optimistic about next year…

2021-2022, we finish with 11 wins. Then we add a large number of transfers that we really don’t know anything about, including D2’s, and we go on to win 20+ games in 2022-2023.

Now, we’re adding a number of transfer players that we don’t really know much about, other than that they are (at the very least) somewhat proven at the D1 level, plus some touted talent in our recruiting class.

If we can go from 11 wins to 23 wins with “unknowns”, I think we can absolutely build upon that 23 wins with the “proven” (for lack of a better word) talent that we’re adding for next year.

Looking forward to getting ripped apart for this simplistic analysis.
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I’m optimistic but not because any of this spin…

We had Larry, Cooper, Henry, Hobbs and Bledson all returning last year. Cooper and Henry bring our two best players. We had a pretty good idea that we were getting a pretty good player in Avila. We had a pretty good idea that Voss was going to be a scorer that would take a lot of pressure off Cooper and Henry. So McKnight, Gibson, Kent and a few others were question marks. But I think you’re significantly undervaluing last years off season and significantly overlooking what a daunting task it will be to replace Cooper/Voss/Henry.

Simply put - the characterization of unknowns then vs. knowns now is inaccurate at best. Nothing was any more predictable than Cooper and Cam. The equivalent of that this year is what? Robbie and Larry? Robbie and Bledson? Give me a break. You know how much those guys all benefited from playing around dogs like Cooper/Voss/Cam. A lot.

I’m optimistic because we have some depth/options behind Larry at PG. Not to say Larry is shuffled out - I just think that when he was good last year he was elite and so was our team. When he was meh - we were pretty beatable. So having some other options around him will hopefully continue to push him this off season to improve and if he’s having a rough game we have guys to turn to.

I think Avila having all that experience he got last year. I think another off season to work on his fitness and his game is a big thing. I hope he makes a pretty big step forward in his development because we are going to need a big year out of him.

I think this team can be a little more well rounded with guys like Kent/Bledson/Swope/Conwell etc. last year we relied pretty heavily at times on Cooper/Voss/Cam to get us points - that’s how those guys are wired to be as players. I think you look at this roster and it’s a little more difficult to predict where the scoring is going to come from night in and night out. I also think potentially this group will be better defensively than the group last year. Obviously lose a really good defender in Cam - but Voss and Cooper were pretty average defenders.

I think the depth at C and the rebounding are the biggest question marks and reason for concern next year.
 
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TreeTop said:
A reason I’m optimistic about next year…

2021-2022, we finish with 11 wins. Then we add a large number of transfers that we really don’t know anything about, including D2’s, and we go on to win 20+ games in 2022-2023.

Now, we’re adding a number of transfer players that we don’t really know much about, other than that they are (at the very least) somewhat proven at the D1 level, plus some touted talent in our recruiting class.

If we can go from 11 wins to 23 wins with “unknowns”, I think we can absolutely build upon that 23 wins with the “proven” (for lack of a better word) talent that we’re adding for next year.

Looking forward to getting ripped apart for this simplistic analysis.
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Avila, if healthy, is one of our all-time centers. That's a huge plus.
Daughtry is an all-american prep player.
Conwell was the Marion co POY and Indiana all-star that scored 18 and 19 against KY
Gray, Wolfe and Swope are proven D1 players and scorers.
It is hard to replace 6 Srs, some of which were our go-to players.
I like the potential of our returnees.

Very excited.
I don't know about # of wins but I think we can definitely compete at the top of the MVC.
 
Agree with SSOM on this one. Going into last season, I think we all were cautiously optimistic and new deep down we were going to have a better year/team than most outside the program thought. We had scoring staples in Neese and Henry. Yes, Voss was a bit of anomaly in that he was a known unknown, I don't think you could expect to many guys to come in and 3x their production from previous years, but with Voss we expected that because of his Schertz history. Replacing those 3 will nearly be impossible, and I don't think we will. I do think that we have improved defensively as a team so we don't have replace 100% of scoring and still have positive results.

Going into next year we have:

Starter minutes
Larry - The kid is going to get his minutes and is on pace to be the most improved Sycamore since Devonte Brown. If he can develop a floater/pull up jumper he would be a pretty nice offensive weapon. No reason to think he doesn't take another step forward next year.
Avila - Not much to say that hasn't been said. Will be interesting to see development from year 1 to year 2.
Swope - It's reasonable to think Swope is going to get plenty of minutes and produce for us next year. There is no reason to think otherwise.

Knowns
Bledson - Does he take the next step and improve his consistency? He's in line to have a MUCH bigger role in 23-24. Could easily see him being a starter for us but honestly I love what Bledson brings off the bench. He is a natural "X factor" guy and provides much needed sparks at times.
Kent - Does he improve his confidence with another year of familiarity? Hell, if he can knock down a corner 3 at an average clip is stock rises big time.

Unknowns
Wolfe - Guy has produced at the D1 level for a couple years now. In doing research seems like a player that does a lot of things that don't come up in a stat sheet. Wouldn't be shocked to see him thrive in Schertz system as it looks like this guy loves to pass the ball. My bet is Wolfe is going to see the floor quite a bit.
Gray - Will he be eligible next season? This is the one transfer that it's hard to foresee where he is going to land this season for us. Could see him getting the type of run Kent got last season.
Conwell - Don't think Conwell is going to have the immediate impact that Swope is going to have but I think he will be a big piece of the puzzle for the next few years for the Sycamores. Or do we have another Voss situation on our hands? This is one to keep an eye on.
Daughtry - You know that feeling we all had with Avila coming into last season? Yeah, I kind of have a similar feeling with this kid. It's nearly impossible to expect much from true freshman with older covid players still on the court. But there is a buzz with this one.
the last scholly - Presumably we are going after someone 6'9" or bigger to spell Avila
 
treeman said:
Agree with SSOM on this one. Going into last season, I think we all were cautiously optimistic and new deep down we were going to have a better year/team than most outside the program thought. We had scoring staples in Neese and Henry. Yes, Voss was a bit of anomaly in that he was a known unknown, I don't think you could expect to many guys to come in and 3x their production from previous years, but with Voss we expected that because of his Schertz history. Replacing those 3 will nearly be impossible, and I don't think we will. I do think that we have improved defensively as a team so we don't have replace 100% of scoring and still have positive results.

Going into next year we have:

Starter minutes
Larry - The kid is going to get his minutes and is on pace to be the most improved Sycamore since Devonte Brown. If he can develop a floater/pull up jumper he would be a pretty nice offensive weapon. No reason to think he doesn't take another step forward next year.
Avila - Not much to say that hasn't been said. Will be interesting to see development from year 1 to year 2.
Swope - It's reasonable to think Swope is going to get plenty of minutes and produce for us next year. There is no reason to think otherwise.

Knowns
Bledson - Does he take the next step and improve his consistency? He's in line to have a MUCH bigger role in 23-24. Could easily see him being a starter for us but honestly I love what Bledson brings off the bench. He is a natural "X factor" guy and provides much needed sparks at times.
Kent - Does he improve his confidence with another year of familiarity? Hell, if he can knock down a corner 3 at an average clip is stock rises big time.

Unknowns
Wolfe - Guy has produced at the D1 level for a couple years now. In doing research seems like a player that does a lot of things that don't come up in a stat sheet. Wouldn't be shocked to see him thrive in Schertz system as it looks like this guy loves to pass the ball. My bet is Wolfe is going to see the floor quite a bit.
Gray - Will he be eligible next season? This is the one transfer that it's hard to foresee where he is going to land this season for us. Could see him getting the type of run Kent got last season.
Conwell - Don't think Conwell is going to have the immediate impact that Swope is going to have but I think he will be a big piece of the puzzle for the next few years for the Sycamores. Or do we have another Voss situation on our hands? This is one to keep an eye on.
Daughtry - You know that feeling we all had with Avila coming into last season? Yeah, I kind of have a similar feeling with this kid. It's nearly impossible to expect much from true freshman with older covid players still on the court. But there is a buzz with this one.
the last scholly - Presumably we are going after someone 6'9" or bigger to spell Avila
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I just watched part of a Morehead St game. I don't think Wolfe will fare well in the wing depth chart.
 

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sycamorebacker said:
I just watched part of a Morehead St game. I don't think Wolfe will fare well in the wing depth chart.
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legitimately asking what makes you think that? Watching "part of a game" would be tough to evaluate a player fairly unless there were some major red flags. I could watch any parts of any game and any given player wouldn't look to spectacular. But honestly asking what makes you think that?
 
treeman said:
legitimately asking what makes you think that? Watching "part of a game" would be tough to evaluate a player fairly unless there were some major red flags. I could watch any parts of any game and any given player wouldn't look to spectacular. But honestly asking what makes you think that?
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I have watched, I think, all of our recruits. IT IS MY OPINION that he has several players ahead of him for minutes on the wing.
Hey, if I am wrong it's not the end of the world. I'm just stating my opinion. I don't want to get on here and criticize the guy. He can work hard to get
minutes, and if he plays, that's great.

And to you point; Morehead plays a completely different game than we do. We have much less dribbling and much more passing and our offense can involve
all players in the offense.
 
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bigsportsfan said:
Missed that. We are thin enough up front.
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Yes, I saw it but I can't imagine that it would be anything serious enough to prevent him from being eligible. I don't recall a reason being stated or implied.

I don't know what the positions are now, but I would call him, possibly, a "big wing," like Bledson, Kent and Daughtry. We certainly could use him.
 

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So listening to Schertz and him being 100% comfortable with playing really small, here is how I see some flexibility between a couple of the guys.

1 Ju / Swope / Schertz*
2 Conwell / Wolfe / Shetlar / Miller / Bean*
3 Bledson / Wolfe / Daughtry / Shetlar
4 Kent / Bledson / Gray** / Daughtry
5 Avila / Vorst / Bledson

* Walk-On
** Pending NCAA Eligibility Ruling

Bledson and Kent are my two offseason wildcards. Their development will be crucial to where next year's team goes based on how the roster is constructed as of right now. Bledson will need to work on his fitness/stamina since he will go from being the 13mpg guy to potentially being a 35mpg guy and needing to deliver at a high level at whatever spot he is at, especially since he will potentially be banging with Valley 5s some. Kent definitely needs to work on his shot, but he hasn't ever shot over 28% from 3 in 3 years so that may just be his ceiling there. I'd prefer him to add 10-15 pounds so he can fully embrace the 4 spot, especially since he had the highest 2FG% at 67% and I felt like he was always active in trying to get offensive boards. I think he can be a 12-14 and 6 guy, especially if him and Robbie can develop great high-low chemistry.

I also think we're going to really miss Voss' shotmaking ability. Conwell is walking into a helluva situation so I hope he is working on his outside shot because he is going to get a ton of looks next year. He only shot 30% at USF hitting on 27 of his 90 attempts. Voss, by comparison, was 38% on 292 attempts -- 111-292 and quite a few of those were very clutch makes.

Next year may very well be a pivot year looking towards 2024. It will depend on how quickly the returners can makeup that lost production from Henry, Voss and Neese. If we are small, I really hope we just push tempo like crazy to at least try to make other teams uncomfortable.
 
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