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Maybe. But this feels like a “tulip bulb bubble” to me. Schools are just paying ridiculous amounts of money for things that should be readily available. Imagine if 5 years ago someone told you Drake is paying SIUe 85k for a home. You would have thought they were insane. Maybe that’s the market value these days but sometimes as an investor you sit on the sidelines for a while and this feels like one of those times.
Well in this case it was a H/H so I wonder what we got last year compared to what they got this year. The price isn’t going down that’s for sure. So let’s say you do sit on the sideline. 3 years from now maybe the market value is 100,000. (For Low Majors)
 

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So let’s say you do sit on the sideline. 3 years from now maybe the market value is 100,000. (For Low Majors)
This isn’t the stock market, just because you didnt get in at the ground floor you are screwed financially, in fact it might be the exact opposite.

If that’s the case then you have had time to figure out the market, let it play out, figure out the metrics, see where you can generate revenue, and actually come up with a feasible plan on how to navigate all this extra cost in today’s world while being financial responsible and sustain it.

Paying nearly six figures to play SIUe isn’t the answer. That 85k could better go towards NIL, (hey the schools are part of that funding now), coaching pool salary, etc.

But this argument is pointless as long as we are still fielding a football program
 
This isn’t the stock market, just because you didnt get in at the ground floor you are screwed financially, in fact it might be the exact opposite.

If that’s the case then you have had time to figure out the market, let it play out, figure out the metrics, see where you can generate revenue, and actually come up with a feasible plan on how to navigate all this extra cost in today’s world while being financial responsible and sustain it.

Paying nearly six figures to play SIUe isn’t the answer. That 85k could better go towards NIL, (hey the schools are part of that funding now), coaching pool salary, etc.

But this argument is pointless as long as we are still fielding a football program
No I get what you’re saying you don’t think SIU-E is worth that amount to come here. However that money is going to someone. If you want to save 85K then take away a home game. Otherwise spend 60K or what the low number is for another non-d1 to come to the human center. No it’s not the stock market but I look at it as if I was negotiating. Me personally I think the MVC has to figure out a better media deal to get more money to the schools. Not sure what that would take though.
 
This isn’t the stock market, just because you didnt get in at the ground floor you are screwed financially, in fact it might be the exact opposite.

If that’s the case then you have had time to figure out the market, let it play out, figure out the metrics, see where you can generate revenue, and actually come up with a feasible plan on how to navigate all this extra cost in today’s world while being financial responsible and sustain it.

Paying nearly six figures to play SIUe isn’t the answer. That 85k could better go towards NIL, (hey the schools are part of that funding now), coaching pool salary, etc.

But this argument is pointless as long as we are still fielding a football program
It’s the going rate. Market dictates. It’s actually been this way and at this cost for a while. If you wanna buy a D-1 win it’s gonna cost you 50-120k.

The last five years Drake has been one of the only MVC schools to be in the at-large discussion when we get into February so I guess it makes sense they want to have as strong a schedule as possible and not do a cheapo D2 cupcake if they can buy a D1 win and have the money to do so.

College basketball has gotten so out of whack that for schools like ISU the pre-conference usually means zilch. It’s win Arch Madness or nothing for almost every Valley team almost every year now. I sure miss those years in the Oughts when Elgin hacked the scheduling system and got himself on the Men’s Basketball D-1 Championship Committee. The Valley was a multi-bid league for a number of years before the bigger schools wised up and rigged the system.
 
Didn’t ISU make $90k going to Ohio State last year?

Seems odd that a school with the budget of Ohio State is paying the same as a school in the Valley for a buy game.

Either Drake overpaid or ISU was underpaid last year.
 

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High Major Leverage?
Yep....apples and bowling balls.

Scenario 1:
"Hey Matt, it's Chris Holtmann. Wanna come play? We can give you 90k " Any MM coach jumps at that.
Scenario 2:
"Hey Brian, Eric Henderson here. We need a D-1 game Nov 14."
"OK, Eric. We'll come there, but we want an 85k guarantee and I see there's not many other D-1 teams available that weekend. To quote that Senator from the Godfather, I intend to squeeze you"
"Ugh, ok, fine 85k it is. We're Drake. We're private, have a quarter-billion endowment, and we don't have scholarship football so we can afford it."
 
All I’m saying is that if a school with the budget of Ohio State can get a lower level team into their arena (and let’s not act like playing at Ohio State in basketball is just an offering you can’t refuse, they aren’t Kansas, Duke or Kentucky) for the same price that Drake has to pay for SIU Edwardsville then this is all screwed up.

And it would also explain a hell of a lot for those of you who complain about Indiana State’s home schedule.

Somebody might want to at least try and negotiate.
 
All I’m saying is that if a school with the budget of Ohio State can get a lower level team into their arena (and let’s not act like playing at Ohio State in basketball is just an offering you can’t refuse, they aren’t Kansas, Duke or Kentucky) for the same price that Drake has to pay for SIU Edwardsville then this is all screwed up.

And it would also explain a hell of a lot for those of you who complain about Indiana State’s home schedule.

Somebody might want to at least try and negotiate.

Oh, it is definitely screwed up. I still don't see how ANY of this shit is sustainable. I'm seeing FBS programs paying freshman defensive linemen $900k. There is no way this math keeps mathing over a long period of time without absolutely catastrophic waste to schools in some capacity.
 

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I mean...Xavier, Tulsa, Arkansas State, UT Arlington, Oral Roberts....other than Duke, it's not like our schedule is screaming superior opponents.

All mid-major OOC schedules suck, with a few exceptions.
 
Laugh away. I stand by my statement. Those guys you mentioned are ancient history. Their good teams are not very good. If we played against them we would have a playoff season every year.
Evidently you think all HBCU schools are the college equivalent of Bishop Sycamore. 20-24 year old college football players are MEN....high school kids are BOYS for the most part. Even the average D-III program has multiple players who were all-state/all conference caliber players in high school at most positions. D-III has their share of scrubs on a tuition grab by the university, but the cats actually playing are some dudes, and they'd beat most good high school programs. I've coached players at both levels...no comparison.
 

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If ISU has the option of buying an OVC / Horizon League school for $85K or buying a GLVC school for half (or less) of that then I'd prefer to see ISU buy the D2 school at this point. There's really no need to blow money on non-conference games when you play in a one bid league.
 
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