AG Yost Leads Multistate Lawsuit Against NCAA Over Anti-Competitive Transfer Eligibility Rule

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I'd just reather Gray come back next year at this point. He could come in fresh next year with two years left. This could hurt the team and he might have to ride the bench alot. Dont mess with chemistry.
 

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I'd just reather Gray come back next year at this point. He could come in fresh next year with two years left. This could hurt the team and he might have to ride the bench alot. Dont mess with chemistry.

With the rules in limbo, I agree. But if he does play, I'm not sure chemistry will be an issue.
 
The table is set… metrics look great. MVC very gettable. 2-0 conference start already. I want the full stable and I want it right now.

Next year? In this environment? Haha Hard pass. Avila, JS himself - who knows who and what next year will bring.

I want Gray and I want him now. I want the depth. This team has been 6 deep at best. If anyone goes down it’s concerning especially at the 4/5 Kent/Avila/Vorst.
 
The table is set… metrics look great. MVC very gettable. 2-0 conference start already. I want the full stable and I want it right now.

Next year? In this environment? Haha Hard pass. Avila, JS himself - who knows who and what next year will bring.

I want Gray and I want him now. I want the depth. This team has been 6 deep at best. If anyone goes down it’s concerning especially at the 4/5 Kent/Avila/Vorst.
I agree with you but in theory, but is it worth the risk of Gray losing a whole year eligibility if he plays a couple games and NCAA ties this up with injunctions and wins with what they put out yesterday. Did i understand right the players who plays in the 14 days and if NCAA wins they would have to sit out the remainder of this year and lose a year of eligibility. Is that correct? I don't know if that risk is worth it with how squirrely the legal system is for potentially 2-3 game that are non-conference as well. Not arguing just talking.
 
I agree with you but in theory, but is it worth the risk of Gray losing a whole year eligibility if he plays a couple games and NCAA ties this up with injunctions and wins with what they put out yesterday. Did i understand right the players who plays in the 14 days and if NCAA wins they would have to sit out the remainder of this year and lose a year of eligibility. Is that correct? I don't know if that risk is worth it with how squirrely the legal system is for potentially 2-3 game that are non-conference as well. Not arguing just talking.

See post 23 above. It's a fluid situation. The NCAA will lose this.
 

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I agree with you but in theory, but is it worth the risk of Gray losing a whole year eligibility if he plays a couple games and NCAA ties this up with injunctions and wins with what they put out yesterday. Did i understand right the players who plays in the 14 days and if NCAA wins they would have to sit out the remainder of this year and lose a year of eligibility. Is that correct? I don't know if that risk is worth it with how squirrely the legal system is for potentially 2-3 game that are non-conference as well. Not arguing just talking.

Oh I know you’re not arguing! All good. I understand the perspective on the risk of him losing a full season I don’t want to “risk” him playing 2 games and then counting that as a full season. I don’t see that ever standing up and given what is potentially on the line with how we’ve started this season it would be a chance I was willing to take as a player and as a coach.

If JS thinks he’s one of our best players - then I would take my chances.

But here is the point that could be made!! Why not just wait and see how this plays out? Do we really need him for Ball State and Tenn State? I mean maybe, but hopefully not!

Counterpoint, that gives him a couple games to work his way back prior to a big one at Michigan State and the conference slate. It would be a nice little warmup to those games.

So certainly not an easy decision I can see all sides but for me - it’s pretty clear cut on what I would do and what I’d like to see happen. Even with this same team coming back next year 9-1, 2-0 in MoVal with a road dub and a top 15 NET will be really hard to replicate.
 
A semi-legal question in a world where the NCAA has been chopped off at the knees by the legal system. The NCAA crime was trying to 'protect' its definition of amateurism:

If multiple governing bodies come into existence for separate 'voluntarily joined' organizations, then can each organization be allowed to establish membership guidelines w/o anti-competitive legal interference? For example, if there is a Power 5-1 FBS organization that enfolds all sports at those 60+ institutions can it write its own remuneration rules and competitive guidelines and transfer rules for internal and external transfers if there exists a totally separate organization for institutions choosing to join it even though it adopts rules far more restrictive for remuneration and transfers?

When the NCAA dominated every major institution, only the NAIA was an alternative. If the 300 or so NCAA D1 MBB programs which are ejected from the new dominant power assembly choose to form a new organization and each agrees to abide by those rules which restrict them and their athletes more strongly than the major institutions choose for themselves, why is that not legal and feasible. If the athlete has a choice and chooses B over A, then he/she should willingly comply with the existing rules. If they want A but are not good enough to be recruited, they can choose NAIA or just be a student. I don't understand why a voluntary organization cannot set its own rules if viable alternatives are in place.
The NCAA (the wealthiest schools) is a bit to blame though. I think all the changes in recent years open it up to a lot of scrutiny and its rules being challenged. They've weakened themselves.
 
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