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#12 Villanova completes the upset of undefeated #5 Lehigh 14-7. Will play the winner of UND and Tarleton State (TSU leads 21-7 in the 3rd).
 

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Sycamorefan96 said:
Watching BYU TX Tech. Normally would root for TX Tech, but I want to see Notre Dame get knocked out.
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Tech is about to put the game away. I’m a ND fan, so, I’m liking this. Wouldn’t it be something if ND played Ole Miss with all the Kiffin drama in the first round?
 
Hooper said:
Wonder what kind of feedback Christensen has been getting by putting out PFL feelers.

--Will the PFL Presidents take ISU? Does it have to a be unanimous vote?
--Is there an MVFC exit fee?
--How much?
--Is it enforceable in Court?
--Will the MVFC waive it?
--Are Goddard and the BOT's on board? (I assume so)
--What is different now compared to the botched attempt to go non-scholly from the early 2000s that set the program back years (other than a clear upgrade in administrator competence)?
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We learned this year with Missouri State that there was no exit fee. Remember reading a tweet from Bear beat writer Wyatt Wheeler who tracked that down when they were going through the exit process. This is also why they ripped cord so quickly.

I'd say the biggest difference now is the costs are now significantly greater. Now on top of your yearly OpEx, you have full cost of attendance AND NIL which didn't exist back in those days. On top of that, we now have two more decades of facilities decay.

I've posted this before and I still believe it to be true, but IMO to remain where we are and be competitive, we'd need between $50-75M in capital investment. That includes a new on-campus football stadium, and both coaching/staff AND NIL endowments so you're not chasing donors non-stop.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
We learned this year with Missouri State that there was no exit fee. Remember reading a tweet from Bear beat writer Wyatt Wheeler who tracked that down when they were going through the exit process. This is also why they ripped cord so quickly.

I'd say the biggest difference now is the costs are now significantly greater. Now on top of your yearly OpEx, you have full cost of attendance AND NIL which didn't exist back in those days. On top of that, we now have two more decades of facilities decay.

I've posted this before and I still believe it to be true, but IMO to remain where we are and be competitive, we'd need between $50-75M in capital investment. That includes a new on-campus football stadium, and both coaching/staff AND NIL endowments so you're not chasing donors non-stop.
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I've never understood why the MVC/FC doesn't institute an exit fee. I know an exit fee won't necessarily keep teams from leaving, but holding the door wide open while they walk out just seems dumb to me. We've seen this time and time again with Creighton, Wichita, Loyola, and also Missouri State.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
He has.
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Glad to learn this.

Appreciate the intelligent football posts/discussions/banter. Hoping some kind of change happens.

If I was a football diehard, I would want to remain in the mvfc with a buyout & hire Englehart (sp?), & kick the can down the road a few years.

I'm not a football diehard, so PFL sounds like the most commonly acceptable option to me, since a vocal minority won't accept dropping the program, which is emotionally understandable.
 
Bobbyk60 said:
Tech is about to put the game away. I’m a ND fan, so, I’m liking this. Wouldn’t it be something if ND played Ole Miss with all the Kiffin drama in the first round?
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I don't feel like Notre Dame actually deserves to make the playoffs this year. To me they played two pretty good teams and lost both games, and lost the head to head with the team they are supposedly fighting for the last spot with. If Notre Dame gets in it's just because they're name is Notre Dame in my opinion.
 

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Bobbyk60 said:
Tech is about to put the game away. I’m a ND fan, so, I’m liking this. Wouldn’t it be something if ND played Ole Miss with all the Kiffin drama in the first round?
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4 small words explain so, SO much

that program hasn't been part of the LEGITIMATE college football conversation since Lispin' Lou "why do all of my former college programs land on probation immediately after I leave?? Holtz -- how many years has it been? 30+???
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
I've never understood why the MVC/FC doesn't institute an exit fee. I know an exit fee won't necessarily keep teams from leaving, but holding the door wide open while they walk out just seems dumb to me. We've seen this time and time again with Creighton, Wichita, Loyola, and also Missouri State.
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I think the split conferences is a possible reason. You have to be very adaptable because you've got different sets of teams in each conference.
 
4Q_iu said:
4 small words explain so, SO much

that program hasn't been part of the LEGITIMATE college football conversation since Lispin' Lou "why do all of my former college programs land on probation immediately after I leave?? Holtz -- how many years has it been? 30+???
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They were in the national championship last year?
 

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Darth Sycamore said:
I mean you can hate ND, but your argument is purely emotional lol

Weren't legit? Beat IU, Georgia and Penn State en route to a title appearance? Come on now
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And any defense of them is emotional.

they played gms vs. 4 ranked teams (Tx A/M, Louisville, Army & Navy), I've forgotten the last season PRIOR to 2024 when Army & Navy were ranked.. AI claims it was 1960...

The Irish LOST to Northern Illinois -- a MAC program so rugged they finished 8-5 || 4-4 for a 2-way tie for 6th?!?! in the MAC

Two of their wins were over two of the most destitute programs of 2024 -- a 1-11 Purdue team, who's ONLY win was a 49-0 Blowout of Indiana State AND a 2-10 Florida State team -- 2-10? F$U beat Cal in Tallahassee and managed a 5 TD win over Charleston Southern

The collective record of the irish opponents was 81-73 || 50-48 with two gms vs. conference champions (Miami [OH] and Army); the majority of the teams were middle of the pack or cellar dwellers.

As to their playoff run, the Loosiers weren't going to win at notre dame (a matchup of two overrated teams) and the other three games... akin to Butler's 2010 run to the title game... recall how many "Heaton-esque" shots were made by a Bulldog? As many or more than Heaton to advance them to the title game

Until the FBS Playoff is the same format as FCS, i.e. all conferences WISHING playoff bids are GIVEN playoff bids. FCS has the more equitable format - time FBS adopt it.
 

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Sycamorefan96 said:
I don't feel like Notre Dame actually deserves to make the playoffs this year. To me they played two pretty good teams and lost both games, and lost the head to head with the team they are supposedly fighting for the last spot with. If Notre Dame gets in it's just because they're name is Notre Dame in my opinion.
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They are a bubble team. We’ll see. What about Tulane? If you had to bet money between Tulane and ND, who would you put your money on?
 
IU? I’m still amazed! Those summer workouts the players were talking about are all on their own. I’m sure they are getting guidance, but that’s just self motivation. Hopefully our guys can learn something from those self motivated summer workouts.
 
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