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FATHER OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Eleven
The Wade Level
Not a big fan of this tactic - although we all want to do it.... you shouldn't.
I agree with many of the comments... he stooped to her immature level, and will probably end up with a broken relationship in the short term - and possibly longer.
You could tell that he was angry while filming. Parents should always take time to think their responses all the way through. I'm also never a fan of airing grievances in a public forum like that...
I agree with many of the comments... he stooped to her immature level, and will probably end up with a broken relationship in the short term - and possibly longer.
You could tell that he was angry while filming. Parents should always take time to think their responses all the way through. I'm also never a fan of airing grievances in a public forum like that...
Went too far... Way, way, way too far. How his he ant better for his cursing in the direction of his daughter? A gun? Really? I love guns, but not the way you send a message to your daughter.
11 is right on.
Wimps!
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Ridiculous; he's SUPPOSED to be the adult
prairieclub
The Blue Level
facebook, twitter and cell phones are the absolute worst things that have ever happened to children. gonna lead to even more obesity (if that's possible). Instead of going out and "playing" (term of the past for modern children) they will end up playing games on the computer for hours on end. bad parents love it, cause it's easy to watch a kid that's glued to the computer. not to mention children don't understand that they will and should be held accountable for what they write on facebook/twitter.
and this guys response just guaranteed that his daughter will most likely be pregnant by the end of the week. with that being said, i still think he did the right thing.
and this guys response just guaranteed that his daughter will most likely be pregnant by the end of the week. with that being said, i still think he did the right thing.
I have a pretty good feeling she was headed in that direction anyway.
I applaud this guy. He spoke to her and her friends on in a way they'd understand. She didn't get the message the first time. She'll get it now - as will her friends, and hopefully many more parents across the country will at least start a dialogue about social networking and parents will keep a better eye on what their kids are using it for.
This sense of entitlement that kids have needs to stop, and this guy's actions may just wake a few clueless parents up.
I respect those who may see what he did as wrong, but from my POV, we need more parents out there like him. Many more. Way too many kids these days either rule the home or on an equal playing field.
Well I'm not "un-applauding" him for his parenting. Simply saying that if that was my daughter I woudn't handle the situation like that. We don't have the privlage of knowing what else went into it. Fact is he is the parent and it's his daughter who the bleep are we to question how he punishes his daughter.
Simply judging based on what I have seen here and I think he lost his mind and went over the top - not the reaction that is going two be effective.
Sycamore Proud
The Nicks Level
Not saying that it was, but the whole thing could have been staged in order to see what kind of reactions it would get. If it was fake, it worked. lol
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Sycamore Proud
The Nicks Level
Pretty convincing wasn't he?
He looks pretty bent out of shape - smoking, except never really smokes it, stutters, curses randomly. Lol I'd say it's legit but you never know. Love how he is just out in the yard, lol
What I always say is that when you put something out in the open like this you are ASKING for a judgement...You are asking for someone to say their mind on the subject, to be honest you probably shouldn't be posting messages like this on something like Facebook for sure. You are asking for problems.
B
Bearsfan
Guest
Could've donated the laptop. Other than that, I don't see a problem.
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I dunno, I feel for him. This rant is spot on with today's generation.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/adam...douches-in-rant-fking-self-entitled-monsters/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/adam...douches-in-rant-fking-self-entitled-monsters/
Daveinth
The Wade Level
Having raised 3 daughters (2 of them were twins) I can say this . I applaud the guy he turned that Shit back at her. To many times do these spoiled brats get away with crap. I think when they started calling a normal swat on the ass child abuse. These kids started feeling as if they were the adults and the parents were the kids. I am not saying beat your kids but a little discipline goes a long way. I can tell you had I ever tried something like this as a kid it would have been 5 across the eyes.lol
Eleven
The Wade Level
I feel for him.
I've had a daughter that grew up in the "social media age". It is very tough to navigate if you don't have solid groundwork laid ahead of time.
I guess where I have a problem with this is in the following ways:
1) He is reacting while still angry. Never EVER react/interact to major events while you are still angry. Take the time to think the response through. You will need to have a solid foundation for the discussions of why things are the way they are... that happens after the punishment has been laid out.
2) He is disciplining in public. I just don't ever see that as being beneficial. Anytime I needed to "punish" in public, I always excused my daughter and myself and found a "semi-private" place where I could voice my displeasure and communicate the consequences effectively.
3) His use of the gun simply bothers me. Using a gun during the demonstration of her punishment just really doesn't sit well with me. Probably because he is firing his gun while he is angry... don't like it.
4) This creates a very LONG gap between the punishment - and the "discussion" that always needs to take place after punishment so that everyone is aware of WHY things happened... and get to the understanding of WHY the punishment is necessary.
5) Like many have said, this is basically stooping to her level. .
6) This will simply breed contempt...I imagine that her friends will be getting together to talk about how they can ALL get back at him..
For the record, I DO NOT disapprove of taking her computer away. I don't disapprove of posting a message on her page saying that she is grounded and that the page will be disabled for a period of time. I DO NOT disapprove of putting monitoring software on her PC. I DO NOT disapprove of him setting up "Parental Controls" on the phone line so that it can ONLY call/text the parent's phone numbers.
ALL of which I have done as a parent myself.
I just disagree with the delivery of the message is all...
I've had a daughter that grew up in the "social media age". It is very tough to navigate if you don't have solid groundwork laid ahead of time.
I guess where I have a problem with this is in the following ways:
1) He is reacting while still angry. Never EVER react/interact to major events while you are still angry. Take the time to think the response through. You will need to have a solid foundation for the discussions of why things are the way they are... that happens after the punishment has been laid out.
2) He is disciplining in public. I just don't ever see that as being beneficial. Anytime I needed to "punish" in public, I always excused my daughter and myself and found a "semi-private" place where I could voice my displeasure and communicate the consequences effectively.
3) His use of the gun simply bothers me. Using a gun during the demonstration of her punishment just really doesn't sit well with me. Probably because he is firing his gun while he is angry... don't like it.
4) This creates a very LONG gap between the punishment - and the "discussion" that always needs to take place after punishment so that everyone is aware of WHY things happened... and get to the understanding of WHY the punishment is necessary.
5) Like many have said, this is basically stooping to her level. .
6) This will simply breed contempt...I imagine that her friends will be getting together to talk about how they can ALL get back at him..
For the record, I DO NOT disapprove of taking her computer away. I don't disapprove of posting a message on her page saying that she is grounded and that the page will be disabled for a period of time. I DO NOT disapprove of putting monitoring software on her PC. I DO NOT disapprove of him setting up "Parental Controls" on the phone line so that it can ONLY call/text the parent's phone numbers.
ALL of which I have done as a parent myself.
I just disagree with the delivery of the message is all...
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I think that the responses that I read to what this parent did, are part of the problem we are facing.
I am not saying that I would shoot my daughter's laptop...but I understand his frustration, I understand that not getting through to a child often requires over dramatic responses!
The point, to me, really is about discipline in general. I am in my mid-30s and even when I was a kid, two important things existed for virtually all children. Capital Punishment = spanking, paddling, etc. and the concept that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me!" Both of these are gone (special thanks to Dr. Spock, who recanted his entire Time-out concept)! And, to me because these are both gone, our society is much, much, much worse off. I am not suggesting, beating a child to a pulp, I am not suggesting that kids should be mistreated. But a child should learn what is right and what is wrong, what is tolerated and what will not be tolerated and they should have that strong understanding between what will really hurt them and what will not.
This is why I have such a problem with the entire "Anti-Bullying Lobby" out there. Is physical bullying bad, yes it is! But the concept of mental or cyber bullying is just craziness. And that brings it back to my entire point, a child being made fun of by their peers is just words and words will never hurt me! A child being made fun of "online' is just words, typed into a computer and should have no value to a child, but in this overly sensitive society, instead of discipline, instead of teaching children to cope with ignorance or negative projection, we do none of these things and look where we have ended up? In a situation, where a parent decides to discipline a child in a non-physical, non-bullying way, using the same form of communication that the problematic child used, in essence making the point that the child is not as smart as she thinks she is and people want to judge. And people want to judge because society has the belief that all members of society have a responsibility to do so....I miss my childhood, because during my childhood, if I acted up, I got a belt or a yard stick across the ass! I miss my childhood because, when a boy that was bigger, stronger and older than me that picked on me, I made it a point to run faster, be in better shape and beat him on a basketball court! I learned and developed important skills because of these two things....my sons won't have that opportunity, because if I did or supported either of these, I could have my children taken away by child protective services....and that is what is sad and the problem in regards to this entire situation.
This Dad, did what he thought was right by embarrassing his daughter. She should learn from it and she should use it as a wake-up call. Unfortunately, today, she probably won't and at her school, instead of teachers and administrators being supportive of parents, the school officials will probably coddle her, tell her she did nothing wrong and even provide her with psychological services due to the traumatic event that occurred in her life...you know the traumatic event of having her father put it back in her face in public. Should he have done it in public...heck yes he should have!
On a side note, all these child psychologists that you read about, that are published and have all these findings...one thing typically is true of them, they either do not have children or they have only 1 child. Trust me, having more than 4 children or more...EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT and the concept of child psychology isn't worth much of anything. Parents do what they can to address problems and provide for their children...if that means embarissing a child, if that means making a point, if that means addressing a problem, than you do it and you do it quickly and effectively. You don't wait, you don't take them to a special room, you don't excuse yourself and walk 5 minutes until you get to a quiet place for you and the child to have a retrospective opportunity...if that is your reality than I envy your free time!! You address it as efficiently and effectively as possible! In public is not the best, but sometimes that has to happen. The sad thing is that in 1982, if a child did something in public other parents would understand, support parents for disciplining the child "in public", today the other parents will call the cops and have a parent arrested for addressing things in public that need to be addressed.
Sorry for my rant...
I am not saying that I would shoot my daughter's laptop...but I understand his frustration, I understand that not getting through to a child often requires over dramatic responses!
The point, to me, really is about discipline in general. I am in my mid-30s and even when I was a kid, two important things existed for virtually all children. Capital Punishment = spanking, paddling, etc. and the concept that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me!" Both of these are gone (special thanks to Dr. Spock, who recanted his entire Time-out concept)! And, to me because these are both gone, our society is much, much, much worse off. I am not suggesting, beating a child to a pulp, I am not suggesting that kids should be mistreated. But a child should learn what is right and what is wrong, what is tolerated and what will not be tolerated and they should have that strong understanding between what will really hurt them and what will not.
This is why I have such a problem with the entire "Anti-Bullying Lobby" out there. Is physical bullying bad, yes it is! But the concept of mental or cyber bullying is just craziness. And that brings it back to my entire point, a child being made fun of by their peers is just words and words will never hurt me! A child being made fun of "online' is just words, typed into a computer and should have no value to a child, but in this overly sensitive society, instead of discipline, instead of teaching children to cope with ignorance or negative projection, we do none of these things and look where we have ended up? In a situation, where a parent decides to discipline a child in a non-physical, non-bullying way, using the same form of communication that the problematic child used, in essence making the point that the child is not as smart as she thinks she is and people want to judge. And people want to judge because society has the belief that all members of society have a responsibility to do so....I miss my childhood, because during my childhood, if I acted up, I got a belt or a yard stick across the ass! I miss my childhood because, when a boy that was bigger, stronger and older than me that picked on me, I made it a point to run faster, be in better shape and beat him on a basketball court! I learned and developed important skills because of these two things....my sons won't have that opportunity, because if I did or supported either of these, I could have my children taken away by child protective services....and that is what is sad and the problem in regards to this entire situation.
This Dad, did what he thought was right by embarrassing his daughter. She should learn from it and she should use it as a wake-up call. Unfortunately, today, she probably won't and at her school, instead of teachers and administrators being supportive of parents, the school officials will probably coddle her, tell her she did nothing wrong and even provide her with psychological services due to the traumatic event that occurred in her life...you know the traumatic event of having her father put it back in her face in public. Should he have done it in public...heck yes he should have!
On a side note, all these child psychologists that you read about, that are published and have all these findings...one thing typically is true of them, they either do not have children or they have only 1 child. Trust me, having more than 4 children or more...EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT and the concept of child psychology isn't worth much of anything. Parents do what they can to address problems and provide for their children...if that means embarissing a child, if that means making a point, if that means addressing a problem, than you do it and you do it quickly and effectively. You don't wait, you don't take them to a special room, you don't excuse yourself and walk 5 minutes until you get to a quiet place for you and the child to have a retrospective opportunity...if that is your reality than I envy your free time!! You address it as efficiently and effectively as possible! In public is not the best, but sometimes that has to happen. The sad thing is that in 1982, if a child did something in public other parents would understand, support parents for disciplining the child "in public", today the other parents will call the cops and have a parent arrested for addressing things in public that need to be addressed.
Sorry for my rant...
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