[December 21, 2025] Indiana State (7-5) at Illinois State (9-3)

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SycamoreSuperFan said:
I know it’s been discussed a lot, but the lack of talent identification from the staff doesn’t leave me much hope for the future
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I decided Sterling Young couldn’t play after about five minutes of the Charlotte game. How could we decide he was our keystone recruit? Not blaming him for everything, but he was our keystone recruit “stud”. Jo is very mediocre. We are clearly outmatched tonight, and I wonder if most games will go like this.
 
Dymotic said:
Dunno if it is just me, but Graves felt like the hire to try and keep everyone from transferring. They also maybe thought he could keep the vision Schertz had for the offense.

Pending how baseball season goes, athletics might just need a hard reset after this year. None of the current coaches are Christensen hires. Arch was a recommendation hire from Hannahs. A decision needs to be made on football. In todays era of athletics, you need to either be good, or be good at raising money.
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Yeah, believe remember hearing from an interview that JD, Vorst, Gray, said they'd return with Graves as head coach.

Haven't given up on season. Thought team's ceiling was battling for 4th/5th. Likely 1-1 in conference with a healthy Graves. Giving graves next year before making a personal judgement.

We'll know much more about baseball program after upcoming season. Completely agree about fball.

I do understand the frustration & you make good points.
 
treeman said:
I picked a hell of a year to have a baby and just not be able to invest the time in watching games like I used too
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Congratulations!! And I mean that sincerely. If you haven't been around long, those of us who have know this feeling all too well. You have to cherish the good years, they dont come around often.
 

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RunSyc said:
Yeah, believe remember hearing from an interview that JD, Vorst, Gray, said they'd return with Graves as head coach.

Haven't given up on season. Thought team's ceiling was battling for 4th/5th. Likely 1-1 in conference with a healthy Graves. Giving graves next year before making a personal judgement.

We'll know much more about baseball program after upcoming season. Completely agree about fball.

I do understand the frustration & you make good points.
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Haven't given up on the season, but I don't think that they magically figure out their issues and change course. We should never aim to be mediocre.

Graves is absolutely safe this year, as he should be. We have a nice freshman class coming in 2026, need to find the right pieces to put around them. I'll be the first to say that I was excited for this years transfers and I've been completely wrong. I thought putting a bunch of senior/grad transfers around a returning core of players would give us the experience we needed to compete. Turns out the only solid pickup was Scott (and Hall too, to a lesser extent.) Young has more bad moments than good, and Greene can't even see the court.
 
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