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"Sources: Big 12 expected to add 4 new members by end of next week."

Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF are from the AAC, Wichita's current league. BYU is Independent in football and in the WCC (Gonzaga's league) for basketball. On the bright side it looks like the Big 12 will have 12 teams again.

The bad news for Wichita is that the AAC is losing two great basketball programs and if the AAC adds more members they will likely try to add schools that benefit their football profile.

www.si.com

Sources: Big 12 Could Add Four New Members Next Week

UCF, Houston, BYU and Cincinnati are expected to apply for Big 12 membership next week and could be approved for admittance by next Friday, sources tell Sports Illustrated.
www.si.com www.si.com
 

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So...for basketball, the AAC will effectively have Memphis and WSU? I suppose SMU has been decent in the past, but otherwise there's not a lot going on with that conference now. In short order, the AAC has lost UConn, Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF.

Ouch.
 

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BrokerZ said:
So...for basketball, the AAC will effectively have Memphis and WSU? I suppose SMU has been decent in the past, but otherwise there's not a lot going on with that conference now. In short order, the AAC has lost UConn, Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF.

Ouch.
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Tulsa and Temple have the ability and resources to be better than they currently are today

And the AAC will most likely grab schools from C-USA, other conf to boost their membership
 
treeman said:
I think the big 12 still has too good of a nucleus to be raided by the AAC. The AAC better be worried about Houston, Cincy and to a lesser extent SMU jumping ship.
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well I almost got it right.

WSU not having football is coming to bite them in the ass (but not having football is also a reason they elevated their bball program). No football takes them out of discussion for the MWC and being a public institution in a somewhat geographically outlying area really puts them as a long shot for the Big East. Its honestly kind of funny that the resources that made WSU are now the reasons they are stumbling to keep up with their peers.
 

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BrokerZ said:
So, they'll become just like the MVC...or worse?
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guess it depends on how their football schools fare going forward w/out the 3 departing members...

AAC is still a "Group of Five" conference

MVC isn't

betting time will tell
 
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BrokerZ said:
So...for basketball, the AAC will effectively have Memphis and WSU? I suppose SMU has been decent in the past, but otherwise there's not a lot going on with that conference now. In short order, the AAC has lost UConn, Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF.

Ouch.
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The problem with the AAC is that most of the schools in it don't actually want to be there. A lot of the schools in it were CUSA schools that thought they were joining a BCS conference, until the Big East / AAC lost that designation. Even Wichita State doesn't actually want to be there.
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
The problem with the AAC is that most of the schools in it don't actually want to be there. A lot of the schools in it were CUSA schools that thought they were joining a BCS conference, until the Big East / AAC lost that designation. Even Wichita State doesn't actually want to be there.
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There are only 3 schools that fit your definition - ECU, Tulsa and Tulane; all joined as the Big East was splitting into the Big East & AAC.

The former C-USA schools that joined years before that split WERE joining a BCS conference - the big east

don't care that WSU is "stuck" in the AAC w/out football, they chose their path, all of them did
 
4Q_iu said:
There are only 3 schools that fit your definition - ECU, Tulsa and Tulane; all joined as the Big East was splitting into the Big East & AAC.

The former C-USA schools that joined years before that split WERE joining a BCS conference - the big east

don't care that WSU is "stuck" in the AAC w/out football, they chose their path, all of them did
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As I recall the old Big East had 8 football schools and 7 non-FB schools When the "Catholic 7" announced they were leaving the old Big East added UCF, Houston, Memphis, and SMU in 2013 who were all in the CUSA. ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa joined in 2014 and they were also CUSA. Temple was A10 / MAC FB and joined in 2013 also, followed by Navy FB in 2015. I believe the AAC lost their BCS AQ / Power status in 2014.

Regardless, most of the schools there still don't want to be there. They all thought they were joining a BCS league. Now they are practically a Power 5 prep league where all of the schools are looking to jump ship the first chance they get.

As for Wichita I don't feel bad for them at all. I'm actually happy to see them fail and fall on Their faces. Their coach went off the deep end and got fired, they haven't won a tournament game since leaving the Valley, and most of the best BBall schools in their new league have left. If they want to leave they will have to pay a $10M buyout to leave a depleted conference. Everyone, except Wichita knew that joining the AAC was a bad long term move because of how unstable it was / is. They didn't care, they were just desperate to leave the MVC.
 
FCS Realignment news: Sources are saying that Austin Peay will be leaving the OVC and heading to the ASUN where JSU and EKU departed to. That will leave the OVC with 6 members in football (9 total) and give the ASUN 6 football members for an auto bid for the FCS playoffs.

The MVC's dream has been to add Belmont since Creighton left. With the OVC's instability as of late you have to wonder if the MVC will pounce on this opportunity and bring Murray State with them. Now seems as good of a time as any and Belmont might bite this time.

I follow the OVC, but I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. There must be some internal conflict that we can't see. It seems that the league is dying though for whatever reason.
 

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Sycamorefan96 said:
The MVC's dream has been to add Belmont since Creighton left. With the OVC's instability as of late you have to wonder if the MVC will pounce on this opportunity and bring Murray State with them. Now seems as good of a time as any and Belmont might bite this time.
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There was talk about Murray State joining the MVC a few years ago, but that got shot down in flames pretty quickly. I have a friend whose kid was playing softball there at the time. Apparently there was a revolt from the non-revenue sports about the added cost of traveling to such exotic locations as Fargo and Grand Forks. A lot of boosters shared the same opinion. Having lived in North Dakota (Minot, for 28 months 23 days 8 hours and 31 minutes) myself, I can understand that concern. In Murray, you're about 5 hours from any school in the conference (OVC). The Dakota schools, by contrast, are about 3-5 hours from Minneapolis. More if the lead sled dog tries to chase a rabbit.

I have to admit that I don't understand why anyone would leave one FCS conference for another. That really seems to me like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's not like any one FCS conference has a better TV package that can generate shareable revenue. That said, obviously there is something going on with the OVC and jt may be falling apart. The circumstantial evidence certainly looks that way. Given the state of higher ed funding here in Kentucky, my guess would be that if Murray does try to make a move, it probably would be to join EKU in the ASUN. I just can't see how the MVC makes any kind of financial sense at all.

State schools here are pinching pennies so tight that Abe Lincoln's eyes are bulging out and until/unless the state gets a handle on its pension obligations, I don't really see that changing. I think the prospect of Murray State joining the MVC probably gets more attention on the north bank of the Ohio than it does down here.
 
SouthernForest said:
There was talk about Murray State joining the MVC a few years ago, but that got shot down in flames pretty quickly. I have a friend whose kid was playing softball there at the time. Apparently there was a revolt from the non-revenue sports about the added cost of traveling to such exotic locations as Fargo and Grand Forks. A lot of boosters shared the same opinion. Having lived in North Dakota (Minot, for 28 months 23 days 8 hours and 31 minutes) myself, I can understand that concern. In Murray, you're about 5 hours from any school in the conference (OVC). The Dakota schools, by contrast, are about 3-5 hours from Minneapolis. More if the lead sled dog tries to chase a rabbit.

I have to admit that I don't understand why anyone would leave one FCS conference for another. That really seems to me like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's not like any one FCS conference has a better TV package that can generate shareable revenue. That said, obviously there is something going on with the OVC and jt may be falling apart. The circumstantial evidence certainly looks that way. Given the state of higher ed funding here in Kentucky, my guess would be that if Murray does try to make a move, it probably would be to join EKU in the ASUN. I just can't see how the MVC makes any kind of financial sense at all.

State schools here are pinching pennies so tight that Abe Lincoln's eyes are bulging out and until/unless the state gets a handle on its pension obligations, I don't really see that changing. I think the prospect of Murray State joining the MVC probably gets more attention on the north bank of the Ohio than it does down here.
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Actually the only team that would travel that far would be the football team, the Dakota schools, etc, are in the MVFC, the olympic sports would be in the MVC. But having said that, it would still be further for Murray State olympic sport athletes to travel in the MVC than the OVC
 
I've been thinking about this for a while, but I think the SEC should expand to 20 by adding Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, and Florida State. Create four 5 team pods, and rotate it to where you play one other pod each season (9 conf games total). The two pods that play each other in a given season would effectively be a division and would play the other division (2 pod) winner in the SEC Championship Game. It would also make viewership for that game huge because it would be two teams, both likely in the top 10 at least, that hadn't played each other that season (unless they scheduled each other as a non-conf game).

P1- Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas A&M
P2- Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, MS State, LSU
P3- Florida, FSU, Georgia, Clemson, South Carolina
P4- Ohio State, Michigan, Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
I've been thinking about this for a while, but I think the SEC should expand to 20 by adding Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, and Florida State. Create four 5 team pods, and rotate it to where you play one other pod each season (9 conf games total). The two pods that play each other in a given season would effectively be a division and would play the other division (2 pod) winner in the SEC Championship Game. It would also make viewership for that game huge because it would be two teams, both likely in the top 10 at least, that hadn't played each other that season (unless they scheduled each other as a non-conf game).

P1- Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas A&M
P2- Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, MS State, LSU
P3- Florida, FSU, Georgia, Clemson, South Carolina
P4- Ohio State, Michigan, Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee
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Ohio State and Michigan have it too good in the B10 today

in other conference realignment news...

The American Athletic Conference is on the cusp of expanding; they are examining expansion and expect applications from 6 colleges:

Florida Atlantic
Charlotte
North Texas
UTSA
Rice
UAB

– sources told Yahoo Sports.

www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/sources-the-aac-is-close-to-massive-6-school-expansion-to-reshape-conference/ar-AAPGeR0
 
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