Former Indiana safety Antonio Allen to join Sycamore football program

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Former Indiana safety Antonio Allen has officially transferred to Indiana State and will redshirt the 2015 season, ISU head coach Mike Sanford announced Wednesday morning.

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Second chances are good, as long as the player realizes what a gift it is, and keeps clean and does the work. Very talented player that should fill a void next season. Based on the past transgressions, a risky move, but this has become the way of the athletic world. I wonder why the redshirt this season?
 
Yikes. High risk, high reward, I guess. Calvin Schmidtke immediately comes to mind...

Although this is kinda how we ended up with Charles Swann when I was at ISU. That worked out quite well. I hope the kid takes advantage of the second chance he's been given. Surely the coaches made clear that he's on a VERY short leash...
 
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IndyTreeFan said:
Yikes. High risk, high reward, I guess. Calvin Schmidtke immediately comes to mind...
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He was arrested 2 months ago? High reward? How do you take that chance. He hasn't even been cleared of these criminal charges yet. This is outrageous, he's running a good program and he takes a chance like this? I just don't understand and I'm not afraid to be vocal about it.

This just boggles my mind, 2 months ago he was released the same day he was charged by Indiana and we put a press release on GoSycamores about him joining the program and they don't even comment on his pending legal issues? They just assumed we wouldn't do a Google search or what?

I mean I've already been broadcast as someone that doesn't care for the future of this program so what do I have to lose at this point?
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
He was arrested 2 months ago? High reward? How do you take that chance. He hasn't even been cleared of these criminal charges yet. This is outrageous, he's running a good program and he takes a chance like this? I just don't understand and I'm not afraid to be vocal about it.

This just boggles my mind, 2 months ago he was released the same day he was charged by Indiana and we put a press release on GoSycamores about him joining the program and they don't even comment on his pending legal issues? They just assumed we wouldn't do a Google search or what?

I mean I've already been broadcast as someone that doesn't care for the future of this program so what do I have to lose at this point?
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I feel 'ya. I just hope the coaches have a plan for this kid. Maybe he'll clean up. I know, that's probably wishful thinking, particularly understanding the percentage of arrests at ISU that are students from Indianapolis...
 

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IndyTreeFan said:
I feel 'ya. I just hope the coaches have a plan for this kid. Maybe he'll clean up. I know, that's probably wishful thinking, particularly understanding the percentage of arrests at ISU that are students from Indianapolis...
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I hope he cleans up too ITF, I don't wish ill will on the kid but I aint about to support this move by the program. Are we so far removed from our historically terrible past that we can afford to put this program in a negative spotlight?

Unnecessary risk for negative attention, even if he NEVER does anything wrong again in his life. Who is to say he will even be cleared of these criminal charges? Maybe they have some insider that the rest of the world doesn't have? Who knows, but any news media released about the kid now probably says former member of the Indiana University football program and or current member of the Indiana State Football program.

Again, Indiana University a school with a history of this sort of thing releases a kid two months ago and all of the sudden he is fit for rehabilitation in our program? I'd love for a explanation on this.

Sincerely that wack job on the internet that hates football. Please note that if his legal issues had been cleared up I would actually support the move, I am all in support of second chances. 2 months isn't enough time to make a sound decision in my mind unless they are privy to something that I am not. In the event that they are, then sure take a chance what do you have to lose. It's not like Terre Haute doesn't have other drug dealers.
 
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SycamoreStateofMind said:
Sincerely that wack job on the internet that hates football.
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That's classic!!!

I did notice in one of the stories that he had a hearing (or was supposed to have a hearing) on August 13. Maybe something happened there? I don't know. I agree that this is a terribly risky move by the program, but looking on the bright side (I know, most probably didn't think I could ever look on the bright side of anything), if he cleans himself up, he could be an incredible addition to the defense. But at the same time, the chances of that are pretty slim. But maybe the kid straightens up. Who knows?

I agree with your assessment that this risk is probably not worth taking. But probably is the operative word here...in my opinion...
 
From his tweets, I'm guessing Todd Golden has checked in here to gauge reaction. And from Todd's tweets, I'd say Allen ever suiting up for us is a long shot at best...
 

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SSOM makes some valid arguments, but I don't sweat news about transfers anymore as most of them never end up seeing the field for us, especially when they're announced 6-12 months in advance.

Here is his court info for anyone curious:

https://mycase.in.gov/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=21256582
https://mycase.in.gov/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=21261897

Doesn't look like he has an adult record, so decent chance he could avoid jail/prison time, even if convicted. I assume like most states, Indiana courts don't care mandatory sentencing requirements for drug offenses like federal courts do. 10 to 30 years for a Class 2 felony, doesn't mean 10 is a minimum prison sentence.
 
bent20 said:
SSOM makes some valid arguments, but I don't sweat news about transfers anymore as most of them never end up seeing the field for us, especially when they're announced 6-12 months in advance.

Here is his court info for anyone curious:

https://mycase.in.gov/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=21256582
https://mycase.in.gov/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=21261897

Doesn't look like he has an adult record, so decent chance he could avoid jail/prison time, even if convicted. I assume like most states, Indiana courts don't care mandatory sentencing requirements for drug offenses like federal courts do. 10 to 30 years for a Class 2 felony, doesn't mean 10 is a minimum prison sentence.
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To be fair, most FBS transfers we get just aren't good enough to play here or think they're going to come in and just get handed the job only to get shellshocked when they realize this isn't JV football. He was an All Big-Ten level type of guy with problems off the field.

If he learns from his obvious moronic mistake and has cleaned up his act, it really could be a huge steal.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
To be fair, most FBS transfers we get just aren't good enough to play here or think they're going to come in and just get handed the job only to get shellshocked when they realize this isn't JV football. He was an All Big-Ten level type of guy with problems off the field.

If he learns from his obvious moronic mistake and has cleaned up his act, it really could be a huge steal.
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I wouldn't mess with it. I would have not brought him in. However, I don't know what the coaches know, who they have talked to, what kind of plan they may have this young man on and steps he has to take to ever step foot on the field. If the coaches have put in place a very strict, one strike and your out plan and the young many follows it to a T, then let him compete for a position and if he plays, so be it.

Personally, I think it is all a moot point, because I do not think he will ever actually play. The redshirt year is ( I assume) to see how his legal troubles shake out, and it is just as likely that he will be convicted, serve real prison time and be dismissed as it is he will suit up for us.
 
In all fairness we had a pretty good player here that was an established player for this University that had "off the field issues", all-be-it he was never charged with anything other than a season ending injury - his name was Shakir Bell. So you excuse him from the program and then you sign this guy who has major off the field issues? In what world does any of that make sense?
 
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Jason Svoboda said:
To be fair, most FBS transfers we get just aren't good enough to play here or think they're going to come in and just get handed the job only to get shellshocked when they realize this isn't JV football. He was an All Big-Ten level type of guy with problems off the field.

If he learns from his obvious moronic mistake and has cleaned up his act, it really could be a huge steal.
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True, but it seems many don't workout for one reason or another.
 
One thing is for sure... we can no longer mock Illinois State for the FBS rehab cruise ship they've been running under Spack.

Guess if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
In all fairness we had a pretty good player here that was an established player for this University that had "off the field issues", all-be-it he was never charged with anything other than a season ending injury - his name was Shakir Bell. So you excuse him from the program and then you sign this guy who has major off the field issues? In what world does any of that make sense?
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Maybe I don't know enough about what happened with Shakir behind the scenes. I never heard of him facing any sort of legal trouble.
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Yikes. High risk, high reward, I guess. Calvin Schmidtke immediately comes to mind...

Although this is kinda how we ended up with Charles Swann when I was at ISU. That worked out quite well. I hope the kid takes advantage of the second chance he's been given. Surely the coaches made clear that he's on a VERY short leash...
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The Charles Swann experience did not work out as well as you suggest. I know since I employed him.
 
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