Really, over Drake? Weren't they picked 7th-8th?
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Lansing Contract Situation
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Daveinth
The Wade Level
My argument is we started 1-5 and finishing 11-6 in conference . Honestly no team is competing any better than Indiana State .
Didn’t you just post that Lansing was a dumb failure and in over his head? Like 72 hours ago?
Daveinth
The Wade Level
Actually I said his tenure here has been a failure and that giving him more money would not make him make less stupid coaching mistakes . I am giving kudos for the job THIS YEAR. Was just throwing it out there that he should be in the discussion . His contract is the whole body of work he has produced in the past 10 years . I mean even a broken clock is right twice a day .
To be fair - Lansing might want out as well... I don’t know why all of this centers around ISU wanting Lansing? It’s entirely possible that he doesn’t want ISU or to work for people that really don’t want him here.
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Exactly. I’ve been wondering the same thing. Our AD, whom has hired nothing but coaches with losing records and thrown our football recruits under the bus on the record in the state’s most-read newspaper may be running Lansing off....crazy.
Drake was picked 6th I believe but there were some who picked them higher and some who picked them a little lower. The avg came out to 6th
I think everyone picked Evansville last. If you look at their vote total they were way below even the 9th place picked team.
Nobody would have predicted that Evansville would finish 5th and not be a Thursday team.
I would guess you would have found far more people at the start of the season that would have put money on Drake finishing second in the league long before you would find the same amount of people to put money on Evansville ending up in 5th
Well his wife landed a kick ass position in beautiful Scottsdale, AZ and it was long rumored he had a Suns scouting gig offered to him. I wouldn't blame him one bit to head for warmer pastures.
So....if this is the case then he probably didn't plan on coming back anyway? Hell, no wonder no offers have been going out to recruits. This info needs to be reported so everyone can quit feeling sorry for poor old Greg.
The Suns scouting gig was rumored from several years ago. Just wanted to put that out there for clarity.
Honestly, I hope that does come to fruition, because I think he has a good eye for NBA talent based on some of the guys he's ID'd here.
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fair amount of chatter on a purdue board that lansing and shrewsberry may change jobs...
unless shrewsberry wants/takes the penn state job (a thankless job) in a legit conference
unless shrewsberry wants/takes the penn state job (a thankless job) in a legit conference
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Easily one of Todd Golden's best columns - ever.
www.tribstar.com/sports/local_college_sports/isu_sports/todd-aaron-golden-lansing-is-exactly-what-isu-wants-but-can-it-see-it/article_f9a35c05-6d6d-5f66-a7dd-9cb6112166f4.html
www.tribstar.com/sports/local_college_sports/isu_sports/todd-aaron-golden-lansing-is-exactly-what-isu-wants-but-can-it-see-it/article_f9a35c05-6d6d-5f66-a7dd-9cb6112166f4.html
"Among the other feedback I’ve received is that ISU’s administration is tired of hearing about the lack of resources it provides to men’s basketball, and generally, into athletics."
No bigger sign at a lack of leadership on that campus than this line from his article. Leaders would dive into the problem. They'd do the work. Research. Troubleshoot. Problem solve. You know, all those things they preach to the students on campus while they strive to get that degree. Meanwhile, our leaders in the face of a problem with decades of empirical data pout and continue to perpetuate the issue.
Indiana State: More from day one... Except for the basketball program.
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I've posted this before....but this is what I want to hear, and what we should all hear, from our leaders. Instead, ISU is shocked, SHOCKED, anyone dare question or challenge them and their budgetary decisions. Curtis, McKee, and Clink (though it's sounding like he's less and less culpable in this debacle) take note:
Transcript of Jerry Kill's coaching search press conference after Barry Hinson's departure in 2019:
On his budget to hire the head coach.
We're going to be a Division I program. We're not going to be a Division II program, we're not going to act like we're a IAA program, we're not going to act like we're going to get this coach for the lowest money. We've worked very hard at raising money and we're going to go out and compete. What that level of money is I can't tell you. I know what the market value is in the Valley. I even know some of the private school's money. I think if you look at me since I've been here, I don't think I've pulled any punches with what I've done. We're not going to do anything less with the basketball program and we'll do more because the bottom line is, we're the front porch of the University and we have to win at basketball and put 6-to-8,000 in (SIU Arena). I want it full. To get it full you gotta win. I can't put a dollar figure on it, but we will compete.
Transcript of Jerry Kill's coaching search press conference after Barry Hinson's departure in 2019:
On his budget to hire the head coach.
We're going to be a Division I program. We're not going to be a Division II program, we're not going to act like we're a IAA program, we're not going to act like we're going to get this coach for the lowest money. We've worked very hard at raising money and we're going to go out and compete. What that level of money is I can't tell you. I know what the market value is in the Valley. I even know some of the private school's money. I think if you look at me since I've been here, I don't think I've pulled any punches with what I've done. We're not going to do anything less with the basketball program and we'll do more because the bottom line is, we're the front porch of the University and we have to win at basketball and put 6-to-8,000 in (SIU Arena). I want it full. To get it full you gotta win. I can't put a dollar figure on it, but we will compete.
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HOOPSFAN
The Starter Level
Golden is a Lansing shill despite what he denies in his column. A decent Team last year (by typical ISU standards) but not a Valley title contender & blown away in the conference tourney AGAIN. A little better team this season but even with three all-conference recognized players again finishing 4th & not a Valley title contender with one last gasp to "show" in St. Louis. The Lansing PR machine shamelessly spewing forth to try to save his woefully underpaid job with a "riding the bus to recruit" budget. Go away peacefully GL and try to find a new job. Hope the AD takes your keys away immediately following your next loss.
1. I think your take on Golden couldn’t be further from the truth. He’s a lot of things - but he’s way too proud of his professional obligation to be bought and sold by anyone. In fact - I think he’s so distant from the program and ISU that he’s often late to the party... This article should have been written over a year ago if he really felt this way. It took a tweet and an article from IndyStar to get him all hot and bothered? Come on... A paragraph on his blog suddenly makes him the foremost authority on this matter?? Only on his own mind.
2. Either you’re not paying attention or you’re too jaded to tell? Any chance of GL going away peacefully has come and gone... Oh it was a tongue in cheek comment? Let’s hope.
When he’s gone I expect you to be on here regularly over the next 3 to 20 years when we suck. I’m going to need you to continue to be lead cheerleader through those difficult seasons. You’ve proved to us over the last two years to be very resilient - you’re in the extremely minority of people who want Lansing gone and you’re the ring leader. So when he’s gone - I expect you will be happy and be here to keep things positive right?! Because I’m sure once you pull back the Lansing hate curtain you’re actually a positive person that likes most people - surely it’s only Lansing that you have such hate toward.
Last question - seriously... you want us to win 3 in STL or you want us one and done? That will tell me all I need to know.
tennessee
The Sycamore Level
This quote kind of hits at one of my fears with this impending coaching search.
We know Lansing and Clinkscales have had discussions on a contract extension - and per some rumors floating around, he turned those opportunities down last year and ISU turned them down this year. My guess is Lansing was going to get a raise as part of the negotiated extension, but I don't know that. Not a large one, but something to show good faith.
IF Curtis killed the latest round of talks between Lansing and Clinkscales, my fear is she did so because she did not want to give Lansing the raise - and as a result, the next hire will not be paid well enough to attract the kind of candidate this job seems to need.
with apologies to Manfred Mann...
Blinded by the hate
Revved up like a d****ebag
Another ****er on the board
Blinded by the hate
Revved up like a d****ebag
Another ****er on the board
Blinded by the hate
Revved up like a d****ebag
Hoopsfan drummers bummers
Madman in the summer
With a teenage brain
In the dumps with the mumps
As the adolescent pumps
His way into his hole...