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Jason Svoboda said:
Nevermind Bob, I see the ones you're talking about now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–13_NCAA_conference_realignment

That said, as I mentioned above, almost every single one of those conferences offer football. That seems to be the sticking point and possibly the limitation of the Valley. If the Valley takes additional teams, I'd hope they go after schools that have football programs and could also join the MVFC, or they should do what the OVC does and unify the conference and have a couple basketball schools that don't have football like Belmont, etc.
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Man, you know I am with you there. I want an all-sports conference all the way. I actually think, in the end, we want the the same thing. It's just how we'd get there that's different. Like we all seem to say now, it is what it is. Having just 10 is trying to buck the trend and I don't think it works anymore, particularly with other Valley schools talking about bailing. The MVC needs to be pro-active and in my opinion, they a failing miserably. 6 months ago, I could care less about Elgin and thought he was probably an OK commish. Now I think the total opposite. I never heard back from ISUCC on why he is so sure that they are looking to stay at 10. He acted like he knows that as a fact and I would like to hear where he has heard it from. I only question it because that is NOT what I am hearing.
 

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Bally #46 said:
Man, you know I am with you there. I want an all-sports conference all the way. I actually think, in the end, we want the the same thing. It's just how we'd get there that's different. Like we all seem to say now, it is what it is. Having just 10 is trying to buck the trend and I don't think it works anymore, particularly with other Valley schools talking about bailing. The MVC needs to be pro-active and in my opinion, they a failing miserably. 6 months ago, I could care less about Elgin and thought he was probably an OK commish. Now I think the total opposite. I never heard back from ISUCC on why he is so sure that they are looking to stay at 10. He acted like he knows that as a fact and I would like to hear where he has heard it from. I only question it because that is NOT what I am hearing.
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I just know they're staying at 10 for the next year, in 2014 they may very well add more teams, I have no idea? But for 2013-2014 there will be 10 members.
 
Bally #46 said:
Thanks, CC. I was told there will be more. We'll see.
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I agree, there may be more, but from what the Loyola players were told, there was only going to be one school added in 2013. So we'll have to wait until next April to see if more are added? There is SO much that could happen between now and then.
 
ISUCC said:
I agree, there may be more, but from what the Loyola players were told, there was only going to be one school added in 2013. So we'll have to wait until next April to see if more are added? There is SO much that could happen between now and then.
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I think sitting on our ass is ludicrous, that's all. The trend is more and if we don't move quick enough, we'll be dead meat when we have to have more. My contact is with the university so we'll see who is right. As I said above, you guys seem all for staying at 10. I say it is Russian roulette and we will be too late to expand when we have to. The tree will already be picked. UNLESS, they have something totally in mind and they aren't talking. We'll see who is talking to the right people. Interesting chat, nevertheless.
 
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Todd Golden ‏@TribStarTodd 2m
ISU AD Ron Prettyman told me exceeding the current 10-team MVC membership has been discussed, but it is just discussion at this point.

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Todd Golden ‏@TribStarTodd 11m
MVC presidents voted Friday. At this time, Loyola is expected to be the only member added for 2013-14. http://tribstar.com/sports/x2094911505/Second-City-in-the-Valley-Loyola-joins-the-MVC …
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Bally #46 said:
That doesn't change my opinion at all. Sounds final for 13-14 but we'll see. Ever played poker before?
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Yes, and I suck at it, which is why I won't weigh in on adding more teams or not!

I did find it interesting that Prettyman said "most" of the Valley members were good with Loyola. I bet WSU was one that didn't like the choice, wonder if there was one more?
 
Bluethunder said:
Yes, and I suck at it, which is why I won't weigh in on adding more teams or not!

I did find it interesting that Prettyman said "most" of the Valley members were good with Loyola. I bet WSU was one that didn't like the choice, wonder if there was one more?
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I'd be willing to be it passed 7-2 with Missouri State and Wichita State voting no.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
I'd be willing to be it passed 7-2 with Missouri State and Wichita State voting no.
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I can kinda understand. Another eastern school. I bet if we go to 12, one or both of the new schools will be west. I bet we take Oral Bob. They just make sense. We could go for Denver, too, or Belmont/Murray State. I would take Oral Bob and Murray. Geographic balance and one public, one private. Of course, there will need to be a corresponding invite to the MVFC.

There, I've got the plan. Someone make it happen!!!
 

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IndyTreeFan said:
I can kinda understand. Another eastern school. I bet if we go to 12, one or both of the new schools will be west. I bet we take Oral Bob. They just make sense. We could go for Denver, too, or Belmont/Murray State. I would take Oral Bob and Murray. Geographic balance and one public, one private. Of course, there will need to be a corresponding invite to the MVFC.

There, I've got the plan. Someone make it happen!!!
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I dunno. I think with both Wichita State and Missouri State being vocal about wanting to move, they keep it in the Eastern Midwest area which makes sense. I'd want a long term agreement with a huge buyout before I'd be willing to take a western school because if either jumped as they've talked about, those remaining western schools would be cost albatrosses.

My plan, and this is a wild one, would be to get the 5 dual member schools together to see if there would be interest to form a new conference with a 15-20 year goal to go FBS. Not sure UNI would bite because of their financial troubles, but both Illinois State and Missouri State are already looking at FBS. Then you scour Midwestern FBS schools to see if anyone wants to buy into that vision and if so, you work together as a conference to transition to FBS.

Don't get my wrong, I like the Valley, but I really dislike the separate conferences. I think that it fractures and severely limits membership as well as future membership. I also don't like, as I've stated multiple times in this thread, the different playing fields because of sports offerings.
 
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agrinut said:
Don't know if this is true or not but I was told the non MVC schools said they would not allow a football school into the MVFC.
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did you mean to say the non MVC football playing schools? i.e. Bradley, UE, Drake, WSU
 
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