HeadSickamore
The Recruit Level
The spirt team coach has been there for a long time and needs to go
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[November 12, 2022] Indiana State (1-0) vs Ball State (1-0)
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Totally agree with the spirit squad. The coach has been there way too long. Hard to believe cheerleaders have gone from National Champs to not even having a cheerleading squad. Also, sort of afraid with the 12 million dollar cuts that are going to be made that Curtis will be looking at sports. Curtis and their group has caused this problem with enrollment. They need to make temporary cuts and then put much much more efforts into recruiting students.
I'm kind of amazed at all of the complaints revolving around the cheer squad. As long as they don't look like a bunch of cows trucked in from a feedlot in western Texas, I could care less how good they are at their cheers. Frankly I prefer when they keep quiet, because I find cheerleaders to be on the annoying side as it is. Let them come out a couple of times during TV Timeouts to do their flips and dance to a 15 year old Britney Spears song in peace fellas!
Gotta Hav
The Wade Level
Like Palestinian rockets, and their rocket scientist's aren't efficient, or effective at killing JEWS? What is the hidden message around miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity?
Heck, you got three LIKES for that, maybe one of them can explain ROCKETS, PALESTINIANS, SCHOOL SONGS and ANTISEMITISM.
sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
I think he meant both groups were a bunch of screw ups. I’m just guessing but that’s the way I took it.
Drunk posting?
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The amount of time this forum spends discussing the flipping spirit squad every year is bizarre... The spirit squad really enhancing your game day experience huh? Must be lonely. I don't get it...
I'm convinced based on the content that some of you know more about cheerleading than basketball - which is fine like someone has to wear that badge. But goodness - two games in and spirit squad 2022 discussion has started. Maybe start another thread or e-mail the AD?!
I'm convinced based on the content that some of you know more about cheerleading than basketball - which is fine like someone has to wear that badge. But goodness - two games in and spirit squad 2022 discussion has started. Maybe start another thread or e-mail the AD?!
Maybe just longing for Sally Simmons.
Maybe... We get more people wanting to terminate the Spirit Squad and have a heated discussion about that than we do people talking about enrollment issues at Indiana State, the football programs continued abysmal performance year over year, our budget issues, the disaster that was Homecoming and telling people tailgating to go home.
Like the Spirit Squad is pretty far down on my list of cares or complaints. I think we have other more important things that we probably need to be directing our focus toward. This school is faced with some pretty serious budget related issues - so if one of your budget solutions is to cut the spirit squad all together then that is great. But complaining about the coach - give-me-a-freaking-break. Curt Mallory 18-35. The last coach Mike Sanford 18-30. The coach before that Trent Miles 20-36. Are you seeing a trend? Combined 56-101 and you people want to talk about the freaking Spirit Squad. When will the madness stop? 56 and 101.... Keep pouring money into it though. The coach before all of these hugely successful coaches Lou West 1-32. Combined 57-133. Keep talking about the dream of building a new football stadium and how that will suddenly change the product on the field. Keep talking about shit canning the spirit coach. The pre-game video isn't cool - who the hell cares about the pre-game video. WTF.
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well Twitch, probably the only thing as absurd as the amount of cheer squad comments is that half your post is commenting on posters commenting on the spirit squad.
FanSinceArenaDays
The Varsity Level
get off your podium and enjoy the ride ........ cheer /spirit squad sucks & is an embarrassment to the university to even be on the floor. get your own $hit attitude towards anything you don't agree with out of here. don't try to educate the rest of us.
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I'm not on a podium - I'm right and you can't stand it... Sorry about that for you.
*Speaking of "educating the rest of us", the first word to start a new sentence is supposed to have a capitalization. I went ahead and redlined it for you.
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I mean I didn't bring it up... I'm not complaining about it - I'm wondering why that matters given everything else we have going on. I really don't find that to be absurd but whatever?
SycamoreBlue3209
The Newsom Level
Color me surprised at the conversation....that last several year we had what maybe 8 on the squad by the time basketball seasons rolls around. This year there's probably 15. What are you expecting them to do? This isn't a competition squad anymore.
I guess when the team is playing well and not much to bitch about, we have to find something else...
I guess when the team is playing well and not much to bitch about, we have to find something else...
While I do agree that we bring up the SS too often...I do think enrollment issues can be positively affected by a better in game experience. I'm not saying the affect is huge...it's probably really really small and involves a long chain with small links. I will elaborate more in a new thread.
Anything the University does that "faces" the public should be prioritized and done with excellence. That's the face of the University to the general public. Unfortunately, ISU does most things half-assed. For instance, the teeny, tiny little marching band we have. Embarassing. Looks like a bad high school band. The basketball band is the same way. AND THEY NEVER PLAY THE SCHOOL SONG. Game day atmosphere sucks at all sporting events. The entire Homecoming experience has been decimated.
If the public sees it, ISU should make a point of doing it well. We don't. Details matter.
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Absolutely...and the schools that steal our students are doing it all extremely well.
The game day experience is something schools spend quite a bit of money and resources on. If you have an alumni that keeps asking why the school's song isn't played, maybe it is something to evaluate. We're certainly not Notre Dame, but you can't go to a singular sporting event where that's not played. It's such low hanging fruit that you wonder why something so simple is skipped, especially when it is your older alumni that make up the lion share of your donors and ticket purchases.
PD INDY ALUM
The Sycamore Level
Our woke president has done a poor job in many things. She could care less about school traditions and making things fun for students and alumnae. She has ruined homecoming, is largely responsible for declining enrollment, in addition to not supporting the Greek System, who's alumnae are active in attending our football and basketball games, AND contribute money. I go to every home basketball game and was very disappointed with the elimination of the SPARKETTES. I am an alum from the mid-seventies. When I was in school, many of our good Indiana High School dance enthusiasts, wanted to come to ISU and be a Sparkette.
Many of our administrators are not happy with this sudden elimination of a 60 plus year tradition. I had a long conversation with someone in our Athletic Department about this. Here are several reasons why we have what we have today. Covid changed a lot of things. Extra-curricular activities dried up during the pandemic. From Resident Hall and Fraternity intramurals to things like the debate club, Spanish Club, you name it. Students sat in their dorms and apartments and would not participate in much of anything outside of class. Being able to field a cheer squad and a good Sparkette dance team became an impossible task. Another big issue is that upwards of a dozen cheer leaders have been seriously injured just in the last year with these huge pyramids, stunts etc. Parents have sued the Universities where this happened and, in all cases, these lawsuits were settled out of court. Many big colleges have enormous athletic and investment funds as we all know to ante up and pay these settlements. ISU and the foundation would be wiped out if something like this happened.
I went to the Butler game a week or so ago with some friends, and I counted 36 cheerleaders (7 of whom were men) and about 21 pom pom girls. I like our pep band, but if you have ever been to a Butler home game, their pep band is worth the price of admission. I have to admit that the feel and atmosphere in Hinkle tells you that you are at a big time college basketball game. We can emulate this, but it's going to take students and administration to change things.
Many of our administrators are not happy with this sudden elimination of a 60 plus year tradition. I had a long conversation with someone in our Athletic Department about this. Here are several reasons why we have what we have today. Covid changed a lot of things. Extra-curricular activities dried up during the pandemic. From Resident Hall and Fraternity intramurals to things like the debate club, Spanish Club, you name it. Students sat in their dorms and apartments and would not participate in much of anything outside of class. Being able to field a cheer squad and a good Sparkette dance team became an impossible task. Another big issue is that upwards of a dozen cheer leaders have been seriously injured just in the last year with these huge pyramids, stunts etc. Parents have sued the Universities where this happened and, in all cases, these lawsuits were settled out of court. Many big colleges have enormous athletic and investment funds as we all know to ante up and pay these settlements. ISU and the foundation would be wiped out if something like this happened.
I went to the Butler game a week or so ago with some friends, and I counted 36 cheerleaders (7 of whom were men) and about 21 pom pom girls. I like our pep band, but if you have ever been to a Butler home game, their pep band is worth the price of admission. I have to admit that the feel and atmosphere in Hinkle tells you that you are at a big time college basketball game. We can emulate this, but it's going to take students and administration to change things.
HeadSickamore
The Recruit Level
To be fair, the band director is in her first year and doesn't have the experience needed for a school this size.
The band director is new this year and has changed a lot of things, but the elimination of traditions like the school song are wasted on them.