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sycamorebacker said:
I think some of you are getting carried away. I would encourage Tucker to leave. I'm hopeful that Neese and Henry can use their skills and don't try to play beyond their abilities. I would beg Crawford and Peterson to stay. I'm in the middle on Wilbar, Bledson and Hittle. I don't push young players away that have some talent. We have had zillions of FR here that redshirted or averaged just a few points as FR and developed into good players for us.
An example is Peterson, who is way ahead of Devonte Brown or Harry Marshal. I would say he is closer to Gabe Moore or Brenton Scott.
You have to bring in good players and develop them. FR are kids that have experience playing against kids. They will become men.

I'm convinced that signing Martin and Avila puts us on the right track talent-wise.
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Nothing is carried away - saying what you think might happen has nothing to do with what you want to happen. It’s literally just projecting rather than anything else.

If I literally wanted to get “carried away” as you say then I’d part ways with Larry as well since he’s the most limited offensive player in D1 hoops history. So that’s carried away - the other was literally projecting.

I couldn’t care less what he does enough to be “carried away”… If it was me I’d get rid of Larry, Wilbar and Henry. I’d probably keep everyone else - so how is that for being different from the norm.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
Nothing is carried away - saying what you think might happen has nothing to do with what you want to happen. It’s literally just projecting rather than anything else.

If I literally wanted to get “carried away” as you say then I’d part ways with Larry as well since he’s the most limited offensive player in D1 hoops history. So that’s carried away - the other was literally projecting.

I couldn’t care less what he does enough to be “carried away”… If it was me I’d get rid of Larry, Wilbar and Henry. I’d probably keep everyone else - so how is that for being different from the norm.
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If you cut Larry you would qualify for the stupidest coach in D1 hoops history.
 

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Assuming no effort or attitude problems, my untouchables would be Hobbs, Stephens, Larry, Thomas, Peterson and Crawford.
 
sycamorebacker said:
BS brought this up earlier. Does Peterson qualify for a medical redshirt? If he did redshirt do we ever find out?
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I honestly don't think it matters. The COVID waiver has royally fucked scholarship management. If I'm Schertz, I'm aging everyone through the next couple years so I can finally get some semblance of class balance. Holding Peterson back means he'd then have two PGs in the same class with another two right above provided Larry and Thomas stays. You can't have 4 PGs that packed in together.
 
sycamorebacker said:
I think some of you are getting carried away. I would encourage Tucker to leave. I'm hopeful that Neese and Henry can use their skills and don't try to play beyond their abilities. I would beg Crawford and Peterson to stay. I'm in the middle on Wilbar, Bledson and Hittle. I don't push young players away that have some talent. We have had zillions of FR here that redshirted or averaged just a few points as FR and developed into good players for us.
An example is Peterson, who is way ahead of Devonte Brown or Harry Marshal. I would say he is closer to Gabe Moore or Brenton Scott.
You have to bring in good players and develop them. FR are kids that have experience playing against kids. They will become men.

I'm convinced that signing Martin and Avila puts us on the right track talent-wise.
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Why do you think Peterson is better than Brown or Marshall? Not sure how you're judging him, since he only played like 10 minutes all year.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
I honestly don't think it matters. The COVID waiver has royally fucked scholarship management. If I'm Schertz, I'm aging everyone through the next couple years so I can finally get some semblance of class balance. Holding Peterson back means he'd then have two PGs in the same class with another two right above provided Larry and Thomas stays. You can't have 4 PGs that packed in together.
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Spot on. It would be shocking to see Peterson AND Thomas back. With the lack of depth and lack of playing time for Peterson it would make sense to part ways. Thomas seemed to completely lose interest in the last 10 games or so. Micah clearly has the talent and could turn into a really good guard in the MVC with 3 years of eligibility left. Question is: does he want to be here?
 

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meistro said:
Why do you think Peterson is better than Brown or Marshall? Not sure how you're judging him, since he only played like 10 minutes all year.
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I watched games on youtube (not highlights). He was NW IN POY. He has the complete package as s PG. My only question would be speed and hops. I think he is at least as athletic as Scott and has good PG skills. He can also shoot the three well at the HS distance.
It’s just my opinion, so take it as that.
Coach did say he was in the rotation mix, right?
 
sycamorebacker said:
I watched games on youtube (not highlights). He was NW IN POY. He has the complete package as s PG. My only question would be speed and hops. I think he is at least as athletic as Scott and has good PG skills. He can also shoot the three well at the HS distance.
It’s just my opinion, so take it as that.
Coach did say he was in the rotation mix, right?
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Coach did say that, which is why i've been wanting to see Peterson, and hoping he stays.
 
Peterson was hurt for a good portion of the preseason and again in the season. I think its premature to think his lack of playing time had anything to do with a lack of talent or JS's judgement of his abilities.
 
bluestreak said:
Peterson was hurt for a good portion of the preseason and again in the season. I think its premature to think his lack of playing time had anything to do with a lack of talent or JS's judgement of his abilities.
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So you think he went out and signed Martin because he wants to build his roster with 4 of the 13 scholarships with 3 sophomore and 1 freshman PG’s? I don’t believe for a second he went out and got Martin with the intention of Peterson, Larry & Micah returning. At least one of the three aren’t returning…
 
While Peterson may leave, it is my belief that Mr. Thomas will enter the transfer portal. I have no inside information,
it is just a feeling that he will depart. As they say....IMO.
 

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SycamoreBlue3209 said:
So you think he went out and signed Martin because he wants to build his roster with 4 of the 13 scholarships with 3 sophomore and 1 freshman PG’s? I don’t believe for a second he went out and got Martin with the intention of Peterson, Larry & Micah returning. At least one of the three aren’t returning…
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I didn't write anything regarding the other PG's and certainly don't think all of them will return. (A little brushing up on your reading comprehension may be in order) Thomas seems to have mentally checked out the last half of the season and JS stated he had a discussion with Thomas' family over the Christmas break. Would hate to see him go because I think he has a big upside.
 
bluestreak said:
I didn't write anything regarding the other PG's and certainly don't think all of them will return. (A little brushing up on your reading comprehension may be in order) Thomas seems to have mentally checked out the last half of the season and JS stated he had a discussion with Thomas' family over the Christmas break. Would hate to see him go because I think he has a big upside.
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It’s not premature to think JS is not confident in Peterson’s abilities. He was healthy for the second half of the season and we were in dire need of a PG to handle the ball and take the pressure off Coop and Henry. He never chose to give him the chance even when we had nothing to lose.

I hope this helps comprehend why I believe JS did make a judgement on Q.
 
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