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State Budget Committee OKs funding for Hulman Center project
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The seats can always be changed. My biggest concern is the facade and long term structural design and aesthetics. They missed the boat. They missed the pond. They missed the lake. They missed the ocean. Talking Titanic level of failure. Imagine waking up in 2040 and heading out to Hulman Center and looking at that render. You proud of that place? Now picture doing the same in 2060. You proud of that place? If the answer is yes, you're too easily impressed
Furthermore, the several of you that say "all I care about winning" are missing a vital point. Facilities matter. Let me say it again. FACILITIES MATTER. If they didn't, you wouldn't see schools building these bigger and better arenas, practice facilities, locker rooms, etc. The whole package attracts talent. Talent wins ball games. So next time you talk about a winning team, start looking at the bigger picture.
Everyone with their hands in this project has failed the basketball program, the students, the alumni and the fans that pay their disposable income to go out to the Hulman Center to see a basketball game, attend a concert or other event.
Furthermore, the several of you that say "all I care about winning" are missing a vital point. Facilities matter. Let me say it again. FACILITIES MATTER. If they didn't, you wouldn't see schools building these bigger and better arenas, practice facilities, locker rooms, etc. The whole package attracts talent. Talent wins ball games. So next time you talk about a winning team, start looking at the bigger picture.
Everyone with their hands in this project has failed the basketball program, the students, the alumni and the fans that pay their disposable income to go out to the Hulman Center to see a basketball game, attend a concert or other event.
Cushy blue ones that are comfortable where the school can charge a couple bucks more per seat. That money can be diverted back into the program where the team could then buy home games instead of having to be bought out. Lansing has an 80-35 home record -- a 70% winning percentage. Work for you?
Totally agree. I would say that if they would have showed this one first, we would have been disappointed. But, not nearly as much we are now after seeing all the other cool ones. I can’t believe they couldn’t at least put it in color. I just hope the inside is done right and the outside finished product better than expected.
I'm hearing that the rumors of not many bells and whistles is true. I did hear though that the orange seats will be replaced and the retractable seats behind the baskets will be installed to take the place of the hideous risers and chairs. Gotta look for the positives. Hopefully things like an updated locker room can be taken care of later. Sounds like the previous administration really dropped the ball.
Sycamore Proud
The Nicks Level
Friends and I were talking in the VC room after the game last night. The topic of renovations came up. We spoke to an ISU staffer about improvements to the sound system being desperately needed--he said don't count on that being done. It isn't part of mechanical s package as I understand it. No, I have no idea who he was; I could not see his name badge.
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sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
You are probably not going to get the most for your money when the contractors know up front what you are going to spend. Ever been to a car lot? How much are you looking to spend is always the question they ask. After that they have the upper hand. Their job is to sell you the cheapest car possible for that money.
sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
They would have if ISU would have named it the Gibson Center.
Ya, look out for those greedy contractors.
sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
I don't think habitat for humanity is doing the work with their volunteers.
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Well, it’s a little different with a contractor. You have to know a customers budget to design something that fits in their budget. Why spend time and money designing the Taj Mahal, when you only have the money for a pole barn.
sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
The contractor isn't designing anything. The engineering firm does that. ISU just needed to know how much it will cost to have the work done.
sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
Correct on both counts. Thank you!
You don’t even know who you’re talking to with this stuff and the background they have. If you think you’re the only one with a clue you don’t have a clue.
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sycamore tuff
The Renn Level
Well, I don't think I'm the only one with a clue but you obviously think you are. Let me see, You badmouthed ISU for blowing up the whole convention center/Hulman Center deal. Now you badmouth me for my comments. You must be the smartest man on here. Why don't you lay it all out there so the not so intelligent people on here can understand it.
Definitely badmouthed ISU for the entire Convention Center / Hulman Center deal. I will own that. At this point we might as well wait and see until we see the HC finished project and then judge the finish product. I’ve got a decent idea how I think it will turn out.
I don’t know everyone who visits this forum but I know I’m not smarter than Jason. Beyond that we’ve got educators on here, a dentist, business owners etc. etc. all of which are much smarter than me. So I will go ahead and dispute that - but thank you!
I didn’t say - you don’t have a clue. I said, if you think your the only one with a clue then you don’t have a clue. You need to decide if the shoe fits.
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I haven't chimed in on this discussion before now, because I understand most of all of these points of view. I too am disappointed that we are not going to get all of the bells and whistles that were in the initial proposal, but on the other hand I am very happy that the HC is getting some fundamental repairs and improvements. The building has some serious problems - as I understand it that are fundamental to the integrity of the structure. And it seems that those will be addressed. As most of you probably know the price on steel has skyrocketed over the last year and I'm sure that has had some bearing on the cost. So I'll swallow my disappointment and be hopeful that the 50 million will fix what needs to be fixed.
SycamoreBlue3209
The Newsom Level
Did glass go up too? I just wanted the plan with all the windows lol.