State Budget Committee OKs funding for Hulman Center project

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Our baseball throws at the end of 95% of our games that we are losing by a couple points could be hurt by the lower ceilings too
 

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Just some perspective on where the 50 mil dollar renovation and reduced 9200 seat arena will put us in the valley facilities wise..

Missouri State-JQH arena built brand new in 2008. 67 mil (76 mil today) and is 11,000 seats
Northern Iowa-McLeod Center built brand new in 2006. 26 mil (31.5 today) and is 7,000 seats
Loyola- Gentile Arena, they renovated a 15 year old building in 2011. 15 mil (17 today) and is 5,000 seats
Drake-Knapp Center was built in 1992 for 12.5 mil (22 today) and is 7,000 seats
Southern Illinois- SIU Arena was renovated in 2011. 30 mil (33 today) and is 8,500 seats
Illinois State- Redbird Arena built in 1989. 17.5 mil (35 today) and is 10,200 seats
Evansville- Ford Center was built in 2011. 127.5 mil and is 10,000 seats
Valpo-athletics-Recreation center was built in 1984. 7.25 mil (17 today) and has 5,000 seats
Bradley-Carver Arena/Peoria Civic Center renovated in 2007 (not sure if all or any was to the actual arena?? I went there Odum's senior year and nothing looked freshly done in the bball arena). 55 mil (69 today) and 10,000 seats
 
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Has anyone else heard besides me, that the H.C. renovation is now a NO GO?

There's only been ONE BID for $50 million, and someone has determined separately that the HC roof is shot. And the bid doesn't include the roof.
 
Gotta Hav said:
Has anyone else heard besides me, that the H.C. renovation is now a NO GO?

There's only been ONE BID for $50 million, and someone has determined separately that the HC roof is shot. And the bid doesn't include the roof.
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Haven't heard this and I live local. I haven't seen any activity around there so it has had me wondering. I'm sure Golden will investigate once he sees this.
 
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Gotta Hav said:
Has anyone else heard besides me, that the H.C. renovation is now a NO GO?

There's only been ONE BID for $50 million, and someone has determined separately that the HC roof is shot. And the bid doesn't include the roof.
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Given the age of the HC, I find it almost totally unbelievable that a new roof was not part of the original project. It just doesn't make sense to do it anyother way.
 
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Gotta Hav said:
Has anyone else heard besides me, that the H.C. renovation is now a NO GO?

There's only been ONE BID for $50 million, and someone has determined separately that the HC roof is shot. And the bid doesn't include the roof.
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Any idea who the bidder was?

Part of the problem with the timing of the project is the construction market is already flush with projects (at least in central Indiana). The contractor(s) bidding the job are likely only going to bid with a number that has a nice margin if they are going to take on another project.
 
Hey Gotta Hav... where did you hear this? I have searched and can't find any mention of a problem anywhere. Who is the "someone"? can you say.. what is your opinion on the validity of the info?

thanks
 
bluestreak said:
Hey Gotta Hav... where did you hear this? I have searched and can't find any mention of a problem anywhere. Who is the "someone"? can you say.. what is your opinion on the validity of the info?

thanks
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The project was supposed to start before graduation originally, but then it got put back until after graduation. My source, is a Terre Haute area legislator. There was only one bid and it came in over $20 million higher than the budget. Indiana State is going to have to find the money somewhere to make up the budget loss. The project has yet to start, and it’s way behind schedule. - From my "Source"...

That's all I have for now. Regardless, like someone else said, this is the most disappointing news to hear about ISU sports and it's impact on Men and Women's Basketball...since, well there isn't anything more disappointing than this.

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TreeTop said:
Here's something (dated 4/5/18)...

https://www.indstateplanroom.com/jo...ovation-expansion-bid-b0025900/?preview=77702
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Great find, TREETOP. Of course, most, if not all of us, are NOT architects, but if I am reading it correctly, it appears they have three suites (or more) in lieu of seats in that area and I think most of us would agree with that, and some larger add-ons to the concourses on both ends, which also makes a lot of sense. Any of you see something you don't like or anything major that I am missing? I just glad it's out so we can enlarge the drawings and see what to expect. From what I heard a while back, they are right on schedule for the plans. Look forward to hearing from some of you that can read this stuff intelligently.
 
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Great find, TREETOP. Of course, most, if not all of us, are NOT architects, but if I am reading it correctly, it appears they have three suites (or more) in lieu of seats in that area and I think most of us would agree with that, and some larger add-ons to the concourses on both ends, which also makes a lot of sense. Any of you see something you don't like or anything major that I am missing? I just glad it's out so we can enlarge the drawings and see what to expect. From what I heard a while back, they are right on schedule for the plans. Look forward to hearing from some of you that can read this stuff intelligently.
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What I got out of the plans:

1. Taking out some seats on the southwest corner to provide a view into the arena from the street
2. Taking out some seats at concourse level in the middle on the press box side to create a “Champions Club,” much like what they have in Purcell Pavilion at Notre Dame
3. Taking out some low seats on the same side to create a Varsity Club Lounge at mid-court - views on to court from Varsity Club room
4. Escalators to court level
5. Concession stands at court level
6. Elevators to the upper level
7. New ESPN control room at court level
8. Totally new exterior which should look AWESOME
9. Totally new and relocated concessions on the outer concourse
10. New restroom facilities

Yeah, I spent an entire evening looking through these. I can’t really read blueprints, but that’s what I got from them.
 
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The plans state the existing lighting in the arena is to remain however, there is an alternate bid section (pg 208, vol 2) for Ephesus LED sports lighting with RGBA for color changing effects with DMX control. Those are state of the art for sportslighting and the gold standard currently on the market. Hopefully we get those or something similar, should help with fan experience.
 
So 54 and some change to have all the alternates? Clink needs to work some magic there and start a fundraiser. Easier to sell to people when they know exactly what their money is going toward. We HAVE to get both the lighting packages which would put us a little under 49.5 mil..I think we also have to get the champions club and home locker rooms. That puts us just over 50 mil.. Does anyone know if we are trying to sell naming rights like Evansville did??

If it was me though I'd sink the ISU money into the less glamorous items on that list and then fundraiser items like home locker rooms and suites..The public is more likely to open their wallets for things like that imo...
 

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Southgrad07 said:
So 54 and some change to have all the alternates? Clink needs to work some magic there and start a fundraiser. Easier to sell to people when they know exactly what their money is going toward. We HAVE to get both the lighting packages which would put us a little under 49.5 mil..I think we also have to get the champions club and home locker rooms. That puts us just over 50 mil.. Does anyone know if we are trying to sell naming rights like Evansville did??

If it was me though I'd sink the ISU money into the less glamorous items on that list and then fundraiser items like home locker rooms and suites..The public is more likely to open their wallets for things like that imo...
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Agreed on everything.

Bottom line is you get the entire project done by whatever means necessary. You don't get gifted a portion of the cash so you had damn well better find a way to make it happen.
 
Did I read somewhere that they would bond any additional expense needed to get the project done. I agree that you get one chance to do this right for the longest length of time. Do it right and spend the extra money now instead of trying to additional upgrades later. The money that you might spend on bond financing would likely be the same as increased cost by doing the same upgrade as a stand-alone construction event in the future.
 
I'm puzzled as to why people think this is not happening? Maybe i'm missing something or somebody has some info I don't..But the bid table attached had the bid day on the 24th of May. So one week later you would be pushing it for construction to begin on a project of this scale....However, the bigger reason i'm not surprised construction is not underway is because it wasn't set to begin anyways until high school commencement ceremonies took place there.
 
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