Ted Valentine -- what a clown

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BankShot said:
Bent's style is typical of today's media, where in order to have a story, you REFABRICATE THE FACTS in order to justify their position. Thus, the emergence of the concept of "Fake News."
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You cranky old white dudes sure bristle easy.
 
Valentine is too emphatic with his calls, that’s my only criticism of him. Training tells you to do that to sell the call, he over does it. He did descalate the situation as you can see the player involved simply puts the ball down and runs away. Was that the best move apparently as there was no arguing taking place. Maybe he could have talked to the player and escalated further argument as clearly he was fouled much earlier in the play. In Valentines opinion he did what he did. Public opinion by some disagree. You should try being a ref. Also try being a coach, neither are easy in a fast moving game.
 

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Maybe he just needs to sit back, watch some of his game video, stop showboating and become just half the official he thinks he is. He would then be much better than he is now.
 
Sycamore Proud said:
Maybe he just needs to sit back, watch some of his game video, stop showboating and become just half the official he thinks he is. He would then be much better than he is now.
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Hopefully, Valentine did as you indicated as he returned to reffing last night.
 
region rat said:
Valentine is too emphatic with his calls, that’s my only criticism of him. Training tells you to do that to sell the call, he over does it. He did descalate the situation as you can see the player involved simply puts the ball down and runs away. Was that the best move apparently as there was no arguing taking place. Maybe he could have talked to the player and escalated further argument as clearly he was fouled much earlier in the play. In Valentines opinion he did what he did. Public opinion by some disagree. You should try being a ref. Also try being a coach, neither are easy in a fast moving game.
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The trend over the years has inwardly perverted the officiating, likely the byproduct of "politics" determining one's advancement up the officiating ladder. Hell, back in 60's & 70's, an official was taught to blow the whistle on a call ONE TIME. Now you see some of these clowns "toot a song" after the call. Yes, on occasion, an official will need to SELL his call...but this shouldn't be the norm. I'd like to see the REQUIREMENT of raising your arm AFTER a foul is committed RESTORED to the game, as this simple admission of "guilt" reflects humility, while also forcing the player to CONTROL his emotions (v. "showboating" to the bench or crowd). But this was "back in the dayz" when ORGANIZED SPORT was an instrument in teaching values in living. Today? You describe the "game"...which has waywardly lost a major aspect of its purpose.
 
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The Teddy Entertainment Train continued last night. Did you see he gave a nut-tap to player from Virginia last night after calling a foul? Video is making the rounds on the interwebs this morning...
 
BankShot said:
The trend over the years has inwardly perverted the officiating, likely the byproduct of "politics" determining one's advancement up the officiating ladder. Hell, back in 60's & 70's, an official was taught to blow the whistle on a call ONE TIME. Now you see some of these clowns "toot a song" after the call. Yes, on occasion, an official will need to SELL his call...but this shouldn't be the norm. I'd like to see the REQUIREMENT of raising your arm AFTER a foul is committed RESTORED to the game, as this simple admission of "guilt" reflects humility, while also forcing the player to CONTROL his emotions (v. "showboating" to the bench or crowd). But this was "back in the dayz" when ORGANIZED SPORT was an instrument in teaching values in living. Today? You describe the "game"...which has waywardly lost a major aspect of its purpose.
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When I reffed basketball (poorly I might add) I used to have multiple short burst whistles. I got that from football. Its a habit that is hard to break
 

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niklz62 said:
When I reffed basketball (poorly I might add) I used to have multiple short burst whistles. I got that from football. Its a habit that is hard to break
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Excellent point, and given that many officials (especially in HS) officiate multiple sports, this might explain why the change over the years. I only officiated BB & BA, thus not having the transfer "interference" on the whistle. I might add that as the level of PHYSICAL PLAY has increased, many officials will use the "multi-tweet" as a tool of "player separation" to dissolve the heat. There were times where I might blow the whistle harder to achieve the same end, but I never "multi-tweeted." Bill Malloy, former ISU Track Coach & NCAA Official (who taught my ISU "Officiating Class" in '70) would've shit a brick! Terre Haute had three (3) quality NCAA Basketball Officials during my era: Malloy, Chuck Miles (Trent's Dad) and Charlie Fouty.
 
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BankShot said:
Excellent point, and given that many officials (especially in HS) officiate multiple sports, this might explain why the change over the years. I only officiated BB & BA, thus not having the transfer "interference" on the whistle. I might add that as the level of PHYSICAL PLAY has increased, many officials will use the "multi-tweet" as a tool of "player separation" to dissolve the heat. There were times where I might blow the whistle harder to achieve the same end, but I never "multi-tweeted." Bill Malloy, former ISU Track Coach & NCAA Official (who taught my ISU "Officiating Class" in '70) would've shit a brick! Terre Haute had three (3) quality NCAA Basketball Officials during my era: Malloy, Chuck Miles (Trent's Dad) and Charlie Fouty.
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I dont know if they had those classes in the 90s, I wish I would have started right after I got done playing. An ISU student/now alum I knew back then worked the national championship game monday night. he said he reffed HS FB and wanted to get into big time FB. I was like "is that a thing?" There is a buttload of politicking though. The Charleston IL area had a bunch of D1 officials and an NFL guy. I think it has to do with one guy moving up then a bunch of guys having an "IN".
 
Who was the ISU Alum/NCAA Final Game FB Official? That's pretty damn neat & noteworthy in the ISU Alumni Magazine!
 
BankShot said:
The trend over the years has inwardly perverted the officiating, likely the byproduct of "politics" determining one's advancement up the officiating ladder. Hell, back in 60's & 70's, an official was taught to blow the whistle on a call ONE TIME. Now you see some of these clowns "toot a song" after the call. Yes, on occasion, an official will need to SELL his call...but this shouldn't be the norm. I'd like to see the REQUIREMENT of raising your arm AFTER a foul is committed RESTORED to the game, as this simple admission of "guilt" reflects humility, while also forcing the player to CONTROL his emotions (v. "showboating" to the bench or crowd). But this was "back in the dayz" when ORGANIZED SPORT was an instrument in teaching values in living. Today? You describe the "game"...which has waywardly lost a major aspect of its purpose.
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i forgot to agree with you, good stuff!
 

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BankShot said:
Who was the ISU Alum/NCAA Final Game FB Official? That's pretty damn neat & noteworthy in the ISU Alumni Magazine!
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I'd take it one step further. This is Distinguished Alumni Award territory--especially given the occasional stretch ISU has had to make some years on who they call "distinguished." Officiating the National Championship game is far more impressive than some of the pedestrian recipients I've seen over the years.
 
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