'15 TX SG Curtis "Trey" Knight III (8/14/2015)

[sycamorebacker]

This is a quote from Todd's article. I believe the last phrase is inaccurate or meaningless, although, I'm not sure what he meant. I don't agree with SycamoreCompliance that Todd made it clear. But that doesn't matter now.

I think we should recognize TJ and his family for accepting this agreement. I don't know what his recovery time is, but he might be GIVING UP team practice time by doing this.


""""Bell could be placed on a non-participation scholarship.

The junior cannot participate in any team activities, but in effect, retains everything else about his athletic scholarship. In a year's time, if healthy, Bell can go back on an athletic scholarship, effectively replacing one of those that had been earmarked for next season.""""

 

[bent20]

I'm really not sure which thread this belongs in now, but are they just giving up on a year of eligibility for Bell? Why wouldn't he still be a junior next season?

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

'15 TX SG Curtis "Trey" Knight III (8/14/2015)

Although Todd might do a good job explaining things (debatable) it should be noted that SycamorePride is the first place diehard fans come for Sycamore insider - this site breaks news consistently 3 or 4 days before any of our local media. Yes I have an ego about it and yes I will stroke it myself if necessary. If we sat around and waited for local media to report some of these Indiana State stories then we might still be waiting. Let's not pretend that those guys don't come to this site and if they don't then maybe they should start.

As for the accuracy of reporting the scholarship situation correctly - guys like Joel have a job for a reason. This stuff can be very complicated and have many layers. I don't think anyone on here should be judged for being wrong or right about scholarship implications - it's confusing stuff.

Thanks for coming and clearing it up for all of us as I was starting to question it myself.

 

[sycamorebacker]

I'm really not sure which thread this belongs in now, but are they just giving up on a year of eligibility for Bell? Why wouldn't he still be a junior next season?

Next year would be his 5th year. The NCAA allows 5 yrs to complete your 4, unless you file with the NCAA for a 6th year.

 

[sycamorebacker]

I'll be shocked if we have 13 scholarship players next year.

I am shocked!

 

[sycamore tuff]

I would encourage you all to follow me on Twitter at @SycamoreRules. I Tweeted out the basics of this yesterday afternoon so everyone would understand. Todd Golden's article also made it pretty clear. If there had been scholarship implications for next year, I am sure you would have seen that in the article. Todd is quite thorough and he actually interviewed me about all of this before he wrote it.

Thanks for your clarification. Primary sources are always good. By the way, what is this twitter stuff? I'm still searching the basement of Cunningham looking for some book everyone keeps talking about. I think it is called face book. Someone please help me out. This getting older thing sucks.

 

[Stickboy46]

Everyone,

I thought I would jump on here and clear the air on all of this. It is actually quite simple and well within NCAA rules. As you know, we had a player who injured himself severely this summer and the doctors have indicated he will not be able to participate, in any way, for the entire 2015-16 academic year. When it happened, the coaches and I met and discussed options to bring in another scholarship player. As we do in football many, many times, it was decided that we would talk to the injured player about becoming a "student manager." Managers cannot practice or compete in any way like student athletes do. Managers can, and do, receive full athletic scholarships in a number of our sports and those scholarships do not count against the NCAA scholarship limits because those kids are not "student athletes" in that they cannot practice, workout, or compete like the players do. They are managers. The money still comes out of the team's budget, but because they can't "participate," they have no impact upon scholarship limits. The fact he was an athlete in past years is irrelevant.

This option was thoroughly discussed with the injured player and his family. The decision to accept this type of status and scholarship for this year was accepted and the "athletic" scholarship was surrendered by him prior to school starting and he then signed a "manager" scholarship for 2015-16 and a Manager Agreement, just like all of our other managers do, and have done for years. He is receiving the same scholarship he had when it was "athletic." Nothing changes other than he is not a student athlete. Just FYI, we have about 10 guys/managers on the football team that are in the same boat. Some will never play again, some just can't play this year at all and hope to come back next year. But, our coaches want to do right by the kids and honor the financial commitment, contrary to the general notion that coaches cut kids all the time for not being able to play. This concept is nothing new. There is no "borrowing scholarships" from 2016-17 or anything like that. There isn't even a provision in the rules for such a notion.

When the injured player surrendered his "athletic" scholarship, our new signee was then given that athletic scholarship as the 13th and final athletic scholarship that we can give this year. None of this has any bearing whatsoever on future scholarships. It is our hope and expectation that the injured player will return in 2016-17 and be placed back on an athletic scholarship. We will have 13 scholarships to use in 2016-17.

I hope this helps. Looking forward to a great year of Sycamore athletics. Take care.

This is good to hear that his scholarship is being honored still. I believe this is the same arrangement that WSU has made with DJ Bowles since his heart condition prevented him from ever playing basketball again (he actually "died" on the court during a WSU practice and was revived by the trainer)