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Was that from an AAU file...live action? Never noticed any "D," as everyone was flat-footed & staring into space.:hypnotized:
 
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Most alley-oops in HS or college are not defended much.

But not to the extent of being able to "plant a garden" and watch the plants grow...

Did you watch the game? Neither squad knew how to spell the word d-e-f-e-n-s-e, let alone apply the concept...
 
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But not to the extent of being able to "plant a garden" and watch the plants grow...

Did you watch the game? Neither squad knew how to spell the word d-e-f-e-n-s-e, let alone apply the concept...

Traditional "urban alley cat" ball...

I didn't see the game, but I know the HS defense is not the same as college D.

Typical. And the reason so many HS players think they are too good for us is that they can jump. HS kids think that if they can jump, then they are good basketball players. Like when Carl Richard's AAU coach was quoted that Richard would be all conference in the MVC his FR year. You know; college ball at our level is so easy.
 
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I didn't see the game, but I know the HS defense is not the same as college D.

Typical. And the reason so many HS players think they are too good for us is that they can jump. HS kids think that if they can jump, then they are good basketball players. Like when Carl Richard's AAU coach was quoted that Richard would be all conference in the MVC his FR year. You know; college ball at our level is so easy.

No doubt...it's unfortunate that so many of these kids don't have "ego checks and balances" in the home environment.
 
The winner of a game is the one that scores the MOST POINTS. Our problem is finding shooters - for some reason, after they arrive in TH, they can't seem put the ball in the basket w/ any degree of regularity.
 

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What's verticality if you can't get close to the hoop? Also, it's not just "verticality" that prized, but the associated rate of ascent, or QUICKNESS associated with the jump. The kid from Ben Davis has a very QUICK ascent, thus lending to numerous blocked shots early in flight.

Maybe we should start recruiting in Australia? I hear they've got a few 40"+ leapers over there.

I see where this kid's 6'2" 150lbs...what type of durability is he gonna have on those collegiate "back door" situations? He'll be swatted away like a fly! If he gains 25 lbs of muscle in a couple years, what impact will this have on his efficiency to "fly?"
 
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The height of the jump is directly related to the "rate of ascent." You cannot jump 40" slowly. That's a matter of physics.

So you're saying that a "heavy payload" overcomes gravity at the same "rate of ascent" as a lighter payload? Hogwash...glad that you never worked @ NASA. "PROPULSION" is the key...or in this case, "initial velocity."

http://addoa.com/blog/diy-how-calculate-your-vertical-jump

Factors that affect initial velocity
The more powerful your calves, quads, hamstrings, and core, the more force you will exert on the ground and more speed you will leave the ground with (Pavg=∆W/∆t). The heavier you are, the more force is required to accelerate your body to your initial velocity (F=ma).
 
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The "initial velocity" at liftoff is NOT the same...and herein lies the difference in 40" leapers, where one may be "quicker" than another.
 
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My research was submitted in #54 post...which is not erroneous. The physics presented here describes the difference between a "quick" leaper and otherwise...which is the basis of this whole discussion.
 
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In basketball, "initial velocity" (see #54) can be the difference in gaining an edge as far as getting your shot off quickly on a put back or blocking a shot.

I've been drawing the comparison of a "quick jumper" since discussing the 6'5" kid from Ben Davis in their win over Castle. The concept of "initial velocity" explains this difference.

To paraphrase SSOM, 'nuff said.
 
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I can't believe you engauged in this conversation with him to begin with... Going back and reading the dialogue that took place I'm just sitting back and watching in amusement.

I know. It just bothers me for something like this to not be corrected. I'm a little nuts, I guess.

I don't want fans to think we should be recruiting players that can hang in the air.
 
I can't believe you engauged in this conversation with him to begin with... Going back and reading the dialogue that took place I'm just sitting back and watching in amusement.

I can understand your "expertise" in Business. However, have you any academic bacground in physiology, kinesiology or physics? 'Backer might've, but he's forgotten the principles or simply never applied them to REAL LIFE.
 
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You cannot be that stupid!

So if I throw a ball up in the air 50 ft. You can throw one up 50 ft that will stay in the air longer?

You brought up "hang time"...I'm talking about the velocity/biomechanics of entering into the LEAP. They're different concepts/stages...and account for the difference in two 40" jumpers being successful in their QUICKNESS to block shots or otherwise. Similar to fast TWITCH & slow TWITCH muscle fibers in sprinting & LD running.

Again:

Factors that affect initial velocity of a JUMP:

The more powerful your calves, quads, hamstrings, and core, the more force you will exert on the ground and more speed you will leave the ground with (Pavg=∆W/∆t). The heavier you are, the more force is required to accelerate your body to your initial velocity (F=ma).

Two (2) good ISU comparisons would be GEORGE PILLOW and STEVE HART. Both were similar great leapers, but PILLOW was the quicker jumper of the two because of his superb lower body musculature.

Here's Ben Davis' Henry in the spotlight NOW. Pay special attn: to the VERY LAST tip-in footage, and the INITIAL VELOCITY of his jump:

http://www.courierpress.com/story/s...-junior-indiana-all-stars-announced/99498022/
 
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