'22 IL PF Robbie Avila (Transferred to $aint Loui$)

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I sure wish he added a line like "see you all next season in Hulman". Not going to lie though, saw there were new posts under his name and instantly got pissed.
 

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I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who’s noticed.

Granted a few of the times I think he was just dropping down in help - sometimes the video doesn’t show enough of the floor to really tell what is going on.

But what definitely is going on - is he’s always getting scored on. 😳
 
you really expect a 6'5" freshman guard to guard Robbie down low?

Okay... He wasn't guarding him first of all - it looks like he clearly had got caught up in a switch or was helping in that ONE instance. We're referencing the other videos that have been produced all summer long of him defending guards and getting scored on at will. No - none of us expect him to guard Robbie and you know that.
 

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Don't worry, he'll learn to defend during his freshman redshirt season

You have information or you're just willing to make a prediction?

Because I don't have information and I'm willing to predict that he doesn't RS...

@Jason Svoboda sorry to have hijacked Robbie's thread - these last couple posts should probably be moved. My bad. It's not like I make a habit of this... smh
 
You have information or you're just willing to make a prediction?

Because I don't have information and I'm willing to predict that he doesn't RS...

@Jason Svoboda sorry to have hijacked Robbie's thread - these last couple posts should probably be moved. My bad. It's not like I make a habit of this... smh
I have no information. Just a prediction. With that being said, if he doesn't redshirt, I do strongly believe he'll only see 2-4 minutes per game at best. Just not enough minutes to go around.

But I do love this video of Robbie being mic'd up, pretty fun!
 
I have no information. Just a prediction. With that being said, if he doesn't redshirt, I do strongly believe he'll only see 2-4 minutes per game at best. Just not enough minutes to go around.

But I do love this video of Robbie being mic'd up, pretty fun!
If Gray is eligible, he will redshirt unless he refuses. He will not contribute this year. It’s crazy to think that he will get on the floor.
 
I have no information. Just a prediction. With that being said, if he doesn't redshirt, I do strongly believe he'll only see 2-4 minutes per game at best. Just not enough minutes to go around.

But I do love this video of Robbie being mic'd up, pretty fun!

I agree with re. to "not enough minutes to go around"... I would just say that if you or anyone for that matter is really worried about a player perhaps losing a year of eligibility by not RS then you really need to explain or adjust your logic in this current landscape. I've said it before and I will say it again in so many fewer words - why would you waste time developing a player who might not stick around in your system year-to-year?

You wouldn't... Don't give a player a developmental year for them to potentially decide in the future they are going to leave your program without consequence. Put them on the roster and let them earn minutes by way of production, injury, suspension - shit happens during the course of the season no reason to give them a developmental year. The RS to the program is completely useless right now - to the player it's a freaking nice insurance policy. Ohhhhh I'm not going to play - 3 or 4 players are ahead of me but I can sit here and get my school paid for, redshirt, practice, watch and learn - deal. I call BS on that approach in the interest of the program.

We've talked about transfer rules a lot... I'd say if you redshirt for any reason then you waive your right in the portal to become immediately eligible upon transfer. You also owe the school you are leaving that years tuition. Make it a contractual exchange between player and program. You have to put some sort of parameters in place to protect the program and make the RS a valuable decision again. Case in point? Cam Crawford. He gone... What was the point? Kid might as well just have been eligible. As it worked out we funded his school, assisted in his athletic development and helped him launch his photography business! Greattt
 
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I would just say that if you or anyone for that matter is really worried about a player perhaps losing a year of eligibility by not RS then you really need to explain or adjust your logic in this current landscape. I've said it before and I will say it again in so many fewer words - why would you waste time developing a player who might not stick around in your system year-to-year?

The only reason I replied in the first place is because you expressed concern about his inability to play defense in the videos we've seen. I am not worried about him only playing 2-4 minutes a game and losing year of eligibility. We've got plenty of talent otherwise. And as long as Schertz is coach, I'm confident we'll always have plenty of talent. With that being said, yes I think it would be a value to him and to our program if he were to redshirt....regardless of whether he transfers one, two, or three years down the road.
The RS to the program is completely useless right now - to the player it's a freaking nice insurance policy. Ohhhhh I'm not going to play - 3 or 4 players are ahead of me but I can sit here and get my school paid for, redshirt, practice, watch and learn - deal. I call BS on that approach in the interest of the program.
Schertz would redshirt all of his freshmen at LMU. I would argue that that is still his preference in D-1 (minus very few exceptions, ie Avila), but that's not the landscape we're living in anymore.
We've talked about transfer rules a lot... I'd say if you redshirt for any reason then you waive your right in the portal to become immediately eligible upon transfer. You also owe the school you are leaving that years tuition. Make it a contractual exchange between player and program. You have to put some sort of parameters in place to protect the program and make the RS a valuable decision again.
You and I both know that the NCAA will not move forward with a stipulation such as this, ever. But I've been wrong before!
 

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The only reason I replied in the first place is because you expressed concern about his inability to play defense in the videos we've seen. I am not worried about him losing year of eligibility. We've got plenty of talent otherwise. And as long as Schertz is coach, I'm confident we'll always have plenty of talent. With that being said, yes I think it would be a value to him and to our program if he were to redshirt....regardless of whether he transfers one, two, or three years down the road.

Schertz would redshirt all of his freshmen at LMU. I would argue that that is still his preference in D-1 (minus very few exceptions, ie Avila), but that's not the landscape we're living in anymore.

You and I both know that the NCAA will not move forward with a stipulation such as this, ever. But I've been wrong before!

Well I'm glad you took the time to reply... Literally, not much else to talk about during the summer and this is what the forum is designed for conversation such as this.

It would be a value to our program if a player RS and leaves immediately following his RS season? Not sure I follow that logic?

We are not at LMU and the NCAA transfer landscape (as you correctly) noted is not nearly the same as it was during his years at LMU. I would argue, that if he hasn't changed his philosophy around redshirts then he should and if he hasn't changed I would imagine he would say something like this, "You can't predict or worry about what decision a player will make in the future - you invest in the development of them early on and by doing right by the player, if he's not going to see the floor then you do the right thing by redshirting them and hope they appreciate the gesture later on down the road. But we are going to recruit and develop players with the intention of them playing here for 4 years"

So that's the argument for going ahead and keeping your philosophy the same - I just don't agree with it because I think it's naïve. I also think it ignores the fact that as a program you're not really operating under that same set of principles yourself when you see Hobbs, Martin and Crawford exit - I will never believe that those players individually made the decision that they wanted to leave Indiana State. I believe player, coach, program arrived a decision together for what is best for the player.

So as a program if you are evaluating players on a year to year basis/contract. As players if you are evaluating your standing on the roster/program on a year to year basis. Then why would you ever waste the time redshirting a player? It doesn't make any sense to me. You just have them available and if they play they play and if they don't and lose a year oh well. Get better or go to a lesser program where you can see the floor. Simple as that!

And you're right the NCAA will likely NOT do what I suggested or anything close to it... Was just a suggestion and really just me trying to illustrate the circumstance in which I would be fine with RS a player - so long as the program is protected.
 
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Another HIJACKED thread. Come on guys, take this somewhere else. This thread is about Robbie, not LMU, RS's, and predictions.

Also, in the category of Septem (7) Double's, there's is a new World Record of lazy writing with 34 I's, 54 you's, 29 me's, 22 you're's, 12 we'll, 22 I'm's., 19 your's in the aforementioned posts.
 
Says the guy who doesn’t know how to utilize the very simple to use ignore/block button… 🤣🤣 It gets no better than that! I’m (one) just glad you keep reading - it keeps me (one) going!
 
Apparently, some do not know how the ignore/block function works on SP.

It ONLY works when a registered member to this board is LOGGED ON.

The ignore/block does NOT work when a registered user is NOT logged on.

Side comment, this SP registered account is impressed that another poster didn't go full on you, you, you, I, your, you're, I've and me me me.

If the previous poster had the ignore/block on, the simple to use ignore/block function would have been in use, and the comment made by Gotta Hav would have never been seen.

Just go FULL STOP with the simplicity capabilities of ignore/block, it doesn't work like that.
 
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