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4Q_iu said:
Isn't it just as effective to burn your cash as it is to put it on a roulette table?
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If you’re just guessing then probably - but if you have a game plan and stick to certain sectors of the board etc it can be lucrative. Have to know when to walk just like any casino game - it can go quick! But yes - odds are lowest in casino or close to it.
 

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SycamoreStateofMind said:
If you’re just guessing then probably - but if you have a game plan and stick to certain sectors of the board etc it can be lucrative. Have to know when to walk just like any casino game - it can go quick! But yes - odds are lowest in casino or close to it.
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Why it's more effective to just burn the cash!
 
Don’t like this so far. Think selecting one of the eastside locations would have been better since there is so much more room to grow/develop. Not to mention Greg would have kept so much much in Vigo County.

Whatever… I don’t gamble, not in the construction field and live way the help up north so won’t affect me much. I do hope it works out for everyone.
 
I’d be surprised if it doesn’t still end up east - you can go to beacon pretty quickly and see they don’t have room.

Gibson will make them deal I can almost assure you.
 

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Thats about the only thing set in stone with this whole project it seems. They have fought Greg tooth and nail every step. They have gone to extremes to be sure not to let him in on this....feels really back doorish if you ask me.
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Someone obviously doesn’t want Greg Gibson involved with this project.
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:unsure::unsure: Just thinking the folks at Churchill Downs know just a SMIDGE more about the Gaming Industry than Gibson... just a hunch though

Spectacle Entertainment has been in gaming since... 2018? at least that's what THEIR website states...
 
BankShot said:
www.wthitv.com

Churchill Downs selected as Terre Haute's casino operator - here's what they have planned

INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. (WTHI) - The Indiana Gaming Commission made its selection for a casino operator in Terre Haute on Wednesday.
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I didn't really want a casino here, but this one seems like the best option to me. Might spark some life back into the south side of town, or more specifically the mall.

The gaming commission said that Lucy Luck was in worst shape now than when they were rejected the first time. Didn't matter to the local corrupt politicians in this town though. To no one's surprise they circled the wagons around Gibson like always, recommending Lucy Luck, but apparently the people at the state level can see through the BS that is Vigo politics.
 

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Sycamorefan96 said:
I didn't really want a casino here, but this one seems like the best option to me. Might spark some life back into the south side of town, or more specifically the mall.

The gaming commission said that Lucy Luck was in worst shape now than when they were rejected the first time. Didn't matter to the local corrupt politicians in this town though. To no one's surprise they circled the wagons around Gibson like always, recommending Lucy Luck, but apparently the people at the state level can see through the BS that is Vigo politics.
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So true, which is primarily why the HC renovation funding ($37.5m) was delayed during the CIB committee squabbling.
 
None of that is really true but keep spinning that bull shit if you want…

Although I agree the mall area could use an obvious shot in the arm and this could be it - I’m struggling to understand in surveying Beacon which plot of land that would be? Behind the mall is awful low visibility for a casino.

Church also suggested they’d be open to Vigo officials feedback - in other words if you want it out East we could be open to that as well. They also said as much in the presentation because the question came up from the commission.

Bottom line is this - Terre Haute would have never been in the position to get ANY casino without Gibson and a select number of local business and political leaders. They all worked really hard. I also have first hand knowledge of what went into these efforts from a local contracting effort. None of the other 3 proposals were using much in the way of local construction resources. So don’t let ignorant posts on here fool you - Gibson while he had some flaws with some of his original investors was using many local resources from the word go to make this come a reality.

The biggest issue with HardRock other than the legal issues they had - they had not intended to build a hotel out of phase 1. They were going to utilize existing hotels that are already at 70% capacity on any given night. I think this was a big big reason why they lost… Could be wrong - but my guess.

Let’s take this positive and move on… Take the corruption narrative elsewhere it doesn’t belong here in this conversation - being jaded doesn’t give you an excuse to push a BS narrative. You apparently take after CNN and given your politics that’s odd.
 
Put it downtown on the riverfront!

Yeah, I know that's not going to happen. It needs to be close to I-70...but a guy can dream...
 
IndyTreeFan said:
Put it downtown on the riverfront!

Yeah, I know that's not going to happen. It needs to be close to I-70...but a guy can dream...
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I wouldn't rule that out... Behind the mall is basically the river. Maybe that is where they had in mind. Would be a hell of an addition to the group in our community that has remained very committed to riverfront development. I'd be glad to see it on the river myself - but if not the river probably out east. I just don't see that area around the mall ever being what it once was again. Retail industry has so drastically changed - I don't see malls in small towns ever becoming viable again casino or not... Of course it could develop into something else.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
None of that is really true but keep spinning that bull shit if you want…

Although I agree the mall area could use an obvious shot in the arm and this could be it - I’m struggling to understand in surveying Beacon which plot of land that would be? Behind the mall is awful low visibility for a casino.

Church also suggested they’d be open to Vigo officials feedback - in other words if you want it out East we could be open to that as well. They also said as much in the presentation because the question came up from the commission.

Bottom line is this - Terre Haute would have never been in the position to get ANY casino without Gibson and a select number of local business and political leaders. They all worked really hard. I also have first hand knowledge of what went into these efforts from a local contracting effort. None of the other 3 proposals were using much in the way of local construction resources. So don’t let ignorant posts on here fool you - Gibson while he had some flaws with some of his original investors was using many local resources from the word go to make this come a reality.

The biggest issue with HardRock other than the legal issues they had - they had not intended to build a hotel out of phase 1. They were going to utilize existing hotels that are already at 70% capacity on any given night. I think this was a big big reason why they lost… Could be wrong - but my guess.

Let’s take this positive and move on… Take the corruption narrative elsewhere it doesn’t belong here in this conversation - being jaded doesn’t give you an excuse to push a BS narrative. You apparently take after CNN and given your politics that’s odd.
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Grow up SSOM...hard to accept reality sometimes, isn't it? You don't think the IN Govt Committees vested w/ oversight weren't aware of TH "political history. You need to get out of your box long enough to gain perspective that's NOT prejudiced. "Jaded"...LOL
 

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"None of the other 3 proposals were using much in the way of local construction resources." - SSOM

Gee, I wonder why?
 
Your answer lies within Union v. non-Union labor history in American. TH/Vigo Co. has long been aligned w/ pro-Union & Democrat forces. Unfortunate for TH & Vigo Co., the country has changed significantly in this area, with many states passing "Right to Work" laws which prohibit forced union membership. The "Open Border" policy of the current administration won't help this matter, as cheap, unskilled labor will continue to displace the once-protected Union label.

The recent "pay to play" contract fraud involving one of SSOM's "hero's," ex-Supt. DANNY TANOOS and the Vigo County Schools has also placed a "Warning" stamp on TH business practices state-wide.
 
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