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Bally #47 said:
In the Late 60's, we can't forget the Club Idaho! ("allegedly" both ladies and gambling).
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Don't forget the Eastwood Club, was there for dinner before the Frank Sinatra concert at Hulman Center when grease in the kitchen vent caught fire, Club 70, Club Illiana and the Horseshoe Club. At the Rod & Gun when Lou Meis (sans the toupe) was there with Larry Bird and I believe Bob Wolf. Although smoke laden those places were fun and added character to the community.
 
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4Q_iu said:
Terre Haute didn't seem to prosper from the gambling in town during the mid-late 1950s
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I'm neither a proponent or opponent of gambling. Had it happened I'd have probably only gone a couple times a year spending $20 bucks on slots. Like I said I thought it would have been a good fit for Terre Haute since we're already a little bit of a shopping and eating destination for the area. I really don't think we'd have taken much away from any of the other casinos as they are 2 hours away. If we actually ever build the convention center it would have been something else for people coming to town to do. The same goes for people going to the cross country events and REX games. That's all money that would stay in the community. It would have also been nice to have a company coming to town spending money and not asking for tax abatements. Not to mention adding much needed money to the tax base. And the jobs, while not high end, they would still have been better than what some in this community are making. Also, as I said, it seems like Terre Haute always sucks the hind tit from Indiana government. It takes 15 years to get a 7 mile bypass built but I69 was on the fastrack. Why is it ok for Evansville, Rising Sun, French Lick and others to have a casino and not TH. And then to add insult to injury we decide to take one of the largest available river front properties that could be developed and put a jail on it, unfreaking believable.
 
meistro said:
I'm neither a proponent or opponent of gambling. Had it happened I'd have probably only gone a couple times a year spending $20 bucks on slots. Like I said I thought it would have been a good fit for Terre Haute since we're already a little bit of a shopping and eating destination for the area. I really don't think we'd have taken much away from any of the other casinos as they are 2 hours away. If we actually ever build the convention center it would have been something else for people coming to town to do. The same goes for people going to the cross country events and REX games. That's all money that would stay in the community. It would have also been nice to have a company coming to town spending money and not asking for tax abatements. Not to mention adding much needed money to the tax base. And the jobs, while not high end, they would still have been better than what some in this community are making. Also, as I said, it seems like Terre Haute always sucks the hind tit from Indiana government. It takes 15 years to get a 7 mile bypass built but I69 was on the fastrack. Why is it ok for Evansville, Rising Sun, French Lick and others to have a casino and not TH. And then to add insult to injury we decide to take one of the largest available river front properties that could be developed and put a jail on it, unfreaking believable.
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I agree with every aspect of your post. I'm not a gambler myself but believe the casino would boost the local economy. It's pretty simple...keep everything the same or move forward. A casino would bring more restaurants, hotels, shopping and eventually other businesses.

I also know from my work, anytime there is a convention, all the guys want to go when there is a casino in that city.
 
meistro said:
I'm neither a proponent or opponent of gambling. Had it happened I'd have probably only gone a couple times a year spending $20 bucks on slots. Like I said I thought it would have been a good fit for Terre Haute since we're already a little bit of a shopping and eating destination for the area. I really don't think we'd have taken much away from any of the other casinos as they are 2 hours away. If we actually ever build the convention center it would have been something else for people coming to town to do. The same goes for people going to the cross country events and REX games. That's all money that would stay in the community. It would have also been nice to have a company coming to town spending money and not asking for tax abatements. Not to mention adding much needed money to the tax base. And the jobs, while not high end, they would still have been better than what some in this community are making. Also, as I said, it seems like Terre Haute always sucks the hind tit from Indiana government. It takes 15 years to get a 7 mile bypass built but I69 was on the fastrack. Why is it ok for Evansville, Rising Sun, French Lick and others to have a casino and not TH. And then to add insult to injury we decide to take one of the largest available river front properties that could be developed and put a jail on it, unfreaking believable.
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He's right. Very, very right.

I don't gamble either - the new business venture had nothing to do with me, my hobbies or anything I stand for or against. Truth be told - I think gambling is wreak-less and I agree with those who have fears about what it could lead to for our community.

When I consider the pro's and con's of such a project I ask myself two simple questions. Why not Terre Haute? What does Terre Haute have to lose?

The answer to the first question was already answered above - it was okay for other cities in the state of Indiana but suddenly not okay for Terre Haute. We have too many casions all of the sudden and Terre Haute would take away revenue from those other cities. Maybe Terre Haute was more powerful than we thought.

The answer to the second question is a pretty easy one for me. We are already pretty low on medium house hold income scale, already pretty low on the poverty scale, already pretty low on the health indicator scale(s) etc. etc. That all said, cost of living is pretty low here, we have/had one of the most powerful school systems in the state of Indiana, have wonderful higher educational institutions, have some of the best parks in the state of Indiana. Would a casino really change any of these things for better or worse? I don't believe it would - I think the potential postitves out weight (or should I say out weighted) the negatives.

We had nothing to lose in my mind - but it doesn't matter now. We started the week with a potential river front casino. An ancor project (pun intended) for the riverfront development to attract other businesses and people from IN, IL and beyond. We ended the week with a new jail on the riverfront while the continue to pay for the current jail. The ship has now sailed (pun again intended) - the same Terre Haute as we were when the week started, just trying to survive.

We had nothing to lose...
 
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Those who remember the Idaho Club ..............ahhhhh
"Miss Bunny Love" -- she showed me what true breast implants were all about ............
And I met some "interesting" folks there. Danced with one a couple of times one night (fast dance) ---- almost made a tragic error and started to ask if they'd dance a slow one with me ....................................
SHE turned out to be a guy -- luckily someone alerted me before I made my move.
Could have been a life altering experience !
 

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SycamoreStateofMind said:
He's right. Very, very right.

I don't gamble either - the new business venture had nothing to do with me, my hobbies or anything I stand for or against. Truth be told - I think gambling is wreak-less and I agree with those who have fears about what it could lead to for our community.

When I consider the pro's and con's of such a project I ask myself two simple questions. Why not Terre Haute? What does Terre Haute have to lose?

The answer to the first question was already answered above - it was okay for other cities in the state of Indiana but suddenly not okay for Terre Haute. We have too many casions all of the sudden and Terre Haute would take away revenue from those other cities. Maybe Terre Haute was more powerful than we thought.

The answer to the second question is a pretty easy one for me. We are already pretty low on medium house hold income scale, already pretty low on the poverty scale, already pretty low on the health indicator scale(s) etc. etc. That all said, cost of living is pretty low here, we have/had one of the most powerful school systems in the state of Indiana, have wonderful higher educational institutions, have some of the best parks in the state of Indiana. Would a casino really change any of these things for better or worse? I don't believe it would - I think the potential postitves out weight (or should I say out weighted) the negatives.

We had nothing to lose in my mind - but it doesn't matter now. We started the week with a potential river front casino. An ancor project (pun intended) for the riverfront development to attract other businesses and people from IN, IL and beyond. We ended the week with a new jail on the riverfront while the continue to pay for the current jail. The ship has now sailed (pun again intended) - the same Terre Haute as we were when the week started, just trying to survive.

We had nothing to lose...
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There are 13 casinos in Indiana today; that includes the gambling available at the racetracks as well. Add in the horse racing available in Evansville (Henderson, Ellis Park), Jeff-ville/New Albany (Churchill Downs) and greater Chicago, I don't think the state lacks for gambling venues; add in the state lottery and the national lottery...

agree The Haute could use the $$ and jobs BUT why didn't The Haute fight to land one of the early casinos? Indiana passed casino gambling in the early 1990s...

I also believe that casinos add as many problems as they solve.
 
The casino in Harrison county (corydon) has done wonders for the area. They share the proceeds with Clark and Floyd counties. One of the most evident is many paved roadsvthat were previously rock
 
Westbadenboy said:
Those who remember the Idaho Club ..............ahhhhh
"Miss Bunny Love" -- she showed me what true breast implants were all about ............
And I met some "interesting" folks there. Danced with one a couple of times one night (fast dance) ---- almost made a tragic error and started to ask if they'd dance a slow one with me ....................................
SHE turned out to be a guy -- luckily someone alerted me before I made my move.
Could have been a life altering experience !
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Sounds like Charlie Daniels' "Uneasy Rider '88".... great song.
 
Westbadenboy said:
Those who remember the Idaho Club ..............ahhhhh
"Miss Bunny Love" -- she showed me what true breast implants were all about ............
And I met some "interesting" folks there. Danced with one a couple of times one night (fast dance) ---- almost made a tragic error and started to ask if they'd dance a slow one with me ....................................
SHE turned out to be a guy -- luckily someone alerted me before I made my move.
Could have been a life altering experience !
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AHHH.......Miss Bunny Love! I knew there was a reason I liked you. Now I had totally forgotten about her. (I've ALWAYS been an ass man).
 
meistro said:
I'm neither a proponent or opponent of gambling. Had it happened I'd have probably only gone a couple times a year spending $20 bucks on slots. Like I said I thought it would have been a good fit for Terre Haute since we're already a little bit of a shopping and eating destination for the area. I really don't think we'd have taken much away from any of the other casinos as they are 2 hours away. If we actually ever build the convention center it would have been something else for people coming to town to do. The same goes for people going to the cross country events and REX games. That's all money that would stay in the community. It would have also been nice to have a company coming to town spending money and not asking for tax abatements. Not to mention adding much needed money to the tax base. And the jobs, while not high end, they would still have been better than what some in this community are making. Also, as I said, it seems like Terre Haute always sucks the hind tit from Indiana government. It takes 15 years to get a 7 mile bypass built but I69 was on the fastrack. Why is it ok for Evansville, Rising Sun, French Lick and others to have a casino and not TH. And then to add insult to injury we decide to take one of the largest available river front properties that could be developed and put a jail on it, unfreaking believable.
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Had Terre Haute/Vigo County taken the initiative toward Unigov (see 2007 Shepard-Kernan Commission Report re: govt inefficiency), this new COUNTY JAIL would never have surfaced along the "Riverscape." Too many Democrat-controlled "fiefdoms" in TH/Vigo, which is WHY the Republican-controlled state govt. laughs at such initiatives.

Recall when when IN Supt. of Education GLENDA RITZ used TH as a "launching pad" for her IN DEMOCRATIC Governor nomination? Why do you think she picked TH of all the cities in Indiana? Ever glance @ the "unopposed" ballots of Vigo County (11 of 12 Twp's had no Republican nominee).

If TH desires to drink the milk from the Republican "cow" in Indy, they'll first need to learn to develop greater "sensitivity" in their hands when squeezing the teats of that cow. Sending a lobby group comprised of Democrat diehards like Judy Anderson, et al will NEVER put TH in "good grace" with the powers that be state-wide.
 

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